Since the Absolute is always there, the experience of a blackout is, er, go figure, AN EXPERIENCE OF THE ABSOLUTE.
Since no memory can be dredged up about the "experience," it could only be the Absolute that was "present." Get that? Nothing is what was experienced. No thing. Not even awareness, not even amness. Sorry to tell ya TBs and bliss seekers, but that's the actual real deal bottomline goal of goals. Consult your local Buddhist about the void. It is that no-thingness that will be discovered to be the only identity "one" has ever "had." The rest is a dross of verbiage floating on the illusion of consciousness. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "endlessrainintoapapercup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Kirk said: > < Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks > in their "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full > awakening.> > > What exactly causes these alleged blocks? > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@> wrote: > > > > That vampired look I have determined comes from squeezing the eyes shut for > many hours a day which gives a person bruises under their eyes (dark circles) and > also from the lack of sunlight. I used to look like that from rounding. Most people do > at some point. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Vaj > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:26 AM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries about TM technique and > experience > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:56 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: > > > > > > I don't know what type of experience you are talking about, matrixmonitor...I'm > only > > addressing the issue of conscious transcendence. If transcendence isn't > conscious, > > how can anyone say with any certainty that it exists? > > > > My words about deeper states of meditative absorption were not intended to > reflect > > TM-teach. I was just acknowledging that the experience I described, of pure > > consciousness beyond form, is just the beginning of culturing deeper and > > deeper meditative states. TM may not acknowledge them, but other meditation > > traditions do. My original question was simply whether TM produces conscious > > transcendence for others, as it doesn't seem to do so for me. > > > > > > > > > > Until you're centered and fully transcended at the level of the makara-bindu and > "open the eye of knowledge", the "third eye" as the TM puja mentions, most TMers > will just languish in a laya-samadhi. The techniques to actually awaken awareness > there aren't taught in TM, so unless you're somehow predisposed to awaken so > highly, it just doesn't happen. > > > > > > Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks in their > "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent such full awakening. > > > > > > Rounding continuously for decades in a laya can't be a good thing. But if you've > ever met the sickly Purusha's of the TMO and the resultant distorted personality > types, one does start to wonder how healthy it is. Some of these guys looks like they > were vampirized for years. It's also probably why TM doesn't make the brain very > coherent at all like as is seen in deep meditation/samadhi. > > >
