--Precisely, Edg! IMO some misconceptions regarding "Samadhi" have crept into our history of what the "experience" is all about, due to some statements of Ramakrishna (1836-1886) regarding "going into Samadhi" - in which he was temporarily oblivious to the outer world, but had an inner awareness of Pure Consciousness coupled with (perhaps) some memories of inner visions. To a degree, MMY has made some headway in setting the record straight; along with Buddhism as a whole.
- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since the Absolute is always there, the experience of a blackout is, > er, go figure, AN EXPERIENCE OF THE ABSOLUTE. > > Since no memory can be dredged up about the "experience," it could > only be the Absolute that was "present." > > Get that? > > Nothing is what was experienced. > > No thing. Not even awareness, not even amness. > > Sorry to tell ya TBs and bliss seekers, but that's the actual real > deal bottomline goal of goals. > > Consult your local Buddhist about the void. > > It is that no-thingness that will be discovered to be the only > identity "one" has ever "had." The rest is a dross of verbiage > floating on the illusion of consciousness. > > Edg > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "endlessrainintoapapercup" > <endlessrainintoapapercup@> wrote: > > > > Kirk said: > > < Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have blocks > > in their "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can > prevent such full > > awakening.> > > > > What exactly causes these alleged blocks? > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Kirk" <kirk_bernhardt@> wrote: > > > > > > That vampired look I have determined comes from squeezing the eyes > shut for > > many hours a day which gives a person bruises under their eyes (dark > circles) and > > also from the lack of sunlight. I used to look like that from > rounding. Most people do > > at some point. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Vaj > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 7:26 AM > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Your replies to my inquiries > about TM technique and > > experience > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 11, 2008, at 12:56 AM, endlessrainintoapapercup wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't know what type of experience you are talking about, > matrixmonitor...I'm > > only > > > addressing the issue of conscious transcendence. If > transcendence isn't > > conscious, > > > how can anyone say with any certainty that it exists? > > > > > > My words about deeper states of meditative absorption were not > intended to > > reflect > > > TM-teach. I was just acknowledging that the experience I > described, of pure > > > consciousness beyond form, is just the beginning of culturing > deeper and > > > deeper meditative states. TM may not acknowledge them, but > other meditation > > > traditions do. My original question was simply whether TM > produces conscious > > > transcendence for others, as it doesn't seem to do so for me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Until you're centered and fully transcended at the level of the > makara-bindu and > > "open the eye of knowledge", the "third eye" as the TM puja > mentions, most TMers > > will just languish in a laya-samadhi. The techniques to actually > awaken awareness > > there aren't taught in TM, so unless you're somehow predisposed to > awaken so > > highly, it just doesn't happen. > > > > > > > > > Some yogis have noted TMers--esp. TM-Sidhi practitioners have > blocks in their > > "nervous system" (actually their pranic bodies) that can prevent > such full awakening. > > > > > > > > > Rounding continuously for decades in a laya can't be a good > thing. But if you've > > ever met the sickly Purusha's of the TMO and the resultant distorted > personality > > types, one does start to wonder how healthy it is. Some of these > guys looks like they > > were vampirized for years. It's also probably why TM doesn't make > the brain very > > coherent at all like as is seen in deep meditation/samadhi. > > > > > >
