--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, enlightened_dawn11 > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > > <curtisdeltablues@> wrote: > > > > > > > it is a simple formula-- you either do what the master asks of > > you > > > > and gain what the master has to give, or you don't. it is not a > > > > matter of sitting on the sidelenes chattering about it. the > > choice > > > > is a clear one, and if you don't accept it or accept it, what is > > the > > > > difference? unless you enjoy making up other people's minds for > > them. > > > > > > For me it is a matter of sitting on the sidelines and "chattering" > > > about it. This is a discussion board where such topics are > > > "chattered" about for the purpose of increasing understanding. > > > > are you really seeking to increase your understanding here, or just > > make your prejudices known? > > I followed the guy for 15 years. My studied personal opinion is far > from prejudice. It is post-judice. We each express our POV here, just > as you have. Giving it diminished labels like "chattering" and > "prejudice" reveals your own biases on this topic. But no, I don't > have two choices, be obedient or not. I can also speak up against what > I feel is an unreasonable proposal for one human to make to another > without any restrictions, such as we have in the military. Speaking > against such a misuse of our social bonds is an important issue for > me. I didn't like it any better when Bush tried to run it on the > other countries of the world.
i appreciate your thinking on this. i don't think comparing such a social bond to the military is equivalent though. at least with a master, you can just walk away- or with the Maharishi you could. > > You > > > are offering false alternatives. > > > > i don't understand how. the alternatives are either go with the > > master thing, or don't. what else is there? > > Discussing how we feel about it now. > > > > > And how exactly is my writing about > > > something "making up other people's minds for them?" > > > > > because it appears from what you have said that you strongly > > disagree with what the Maharishi says wrt devotion to a master, and > > by extension offer no viable explanation for those who choose to > > follow him in that way, other than they are weak or flawed or > > deluded in some way. at least that was the way i read it. > > Again with the false alternatives. The people who follow him now are > welcome to give their opinion about the value they are getting. I am > not speaking for them, but only for myself. I have some understanding > of why people make this choice from having made it myself years ago. > I am not unsympathetic to their decision. My comments were aimed at > the person who set up the "with us or agin us" system in the first > place. > true-- there are a lot of assumptions made about an end result for those who follow a master, myself included at one time. of course, the end result is supposed to be a total transformation of one's life, so expecting total devotion isn't too much to ask for. i think the real question is on the seeker-- how do they know the master they are following is worthy of the name, and worthy of their total devotion?
