--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ruthsimplicity <no_re...@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <vajradhatu@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Feb 14, 2009, at 6:00 PM, ruthsimplicity wrote:
> > 
> > > No point in us arguing this.  We disagree as to their conclusions.
> > > Apparently you can't believe that they have the background to conclude
> > > that the studies they excluded from their report were either not
> > > sufficiently rigorous or did not report anything of significant  
> > > interest.
> > >
> > > It is, however, the TM researcher's job to specifically show what the
> > > theoretical framework is for their work.
> > 
> > 
> > Interesting because one of the researchers is probably the most  
> > qualified man in the world to comment on EEG, having been the section  
> > editor of the state of the art work on Human electroencephalography,  
> > esp. electroencephalography and meditation. Davidson's also the man  
> > who's systematically mapped the correlates of alpha.
> > 
> > These guys ain't no slouchers. ;-)
> > 
> > But I agree, it's probably not worth discussing without someone  
> > willing to be honest and objective. Fundamentalists aren't likely to  
> > change their beliefs, but they will do whatever they can to obfuscate  
> > and misdirect, a form of dishonesty common in fundamentalists of many  
> > sorts.
> >
> Yes, there is no way to even talk about it.  Instead, vague
> accusations of not having the proper theoretical framework are made. 
> I hope some other posters here read the article as it is worth
> reading.    
> 
> For the record, Vaj and I are not always in agreement. Vaj is a mystic
> and I am not.  
> 
> Oh well, this all makes me tired.  The more I read actual TM studies
> the more put off I am.  Here, we just talk about people who talk about
> the studies.  Rarely do we actually talk about a particular study,
> which is the only thing of relevance. When I first was on this board I
> had not looked at TM research for years and years and was a bit
> interested to see how things had developed. I am starting to lose
> interest.   
> 
> I am also frustrated that so many journals publish crap.   Not just TM
> crap, but crap in general.  The signal to noise ratio is way off. Part
> of the problem is NCCAM.  It needs to be tossed in the garbage. 
> Instead of spending time here I should be working to abolish NCCAM.  
> 
> Which will be on my list of things to participate in over the next few
> months.
>

Rather than abolish NCCAM, why not require it to have more stringent
peer review?

L



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