--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote:
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> RG:> > * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really
> > > see where I am asking you to "see" much of anything; I am
> > > just trying to point out where our suffering lies...
> > 
> JS: You don't see the disconnect between what comes before
> > the semicolon in what you just wrote and what comes after
> > it?
> 
> RG: Yes, I was aware you might take it as such, but I thought I would try 
> again. So let me get this straight; are you saying that you equate 
> sensitivity to your own bodymind and the ability to tell how it feels (or how 
> you feel) when you think a given thought, with being Awake, and that not 
> being Awake you aren't able -- though you have honestly given it a try -- to 
> tell when holding a specific thought makes you feel good or bad?
> 
> > > in lies; in our resistance to the way things are in this
> > > moment: how we feel stressed, frustrated, worried, heavy,
> > > tense, angry, contracted, or whatever when we are
> > > "shoulding" all over ourselves or others :-)  
> > > 
> > > I don't know; it would seem to me that virtually all of us,
> > > "Awake" or not, could comprehend this if they have the
> > > ability to notice how their own bodymind feels to them when
> > > they hold a given thought. This stuff is making a great deal
> > > of sense to many thousands of "ordinary" people on this
> > > planet;
> > 
> JS: Is it up for a vote?
> 
> RG: I think actually it's already been voted on by the hundreds of thousands 
> of people who have read and enjoyed Tolle, or watched him on Oprah, or read 
> Byron Katie, and so on. I have no doubt that both of these authors will make 
> no sense to many millions if not billions more, however.
> 
> >  do we really think all of them are classically
> > > "Awake"? I have no clue, nor do I really care. It's enough
> > > that it seems to work for them. 
> > > 
> > > However, if there are, say, Jungian personality types that
> > > are congenitally unable to do this kind of work, that would
> > > be very good to know!
> > 
> JS: Are you aware of how pissed off you are at my responses? And
> > are you aware of how much "shoulding" you're doing, even if
> > you aren't using the word?
> >
> * * * Well, I certainly am no stranger to anger or to shoulds; I have found 
> an astounding abundance of both in me, and would and will be most happy to 
> find more, as every one I find untangles into that much more delight!  But 
> no, not right now; I am not aware of any in particular. I am feeling excited 
> and a bit skeptical, though; I am trying to understand where you're coming 
> from -- if you are a whole new kind of being, so to speak!
>

Oy! Is is alright if we're not buying your technique, Rory?  Go back to feeling 
the body. This too shall pass. BTW Judy is not an alien.

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