Cognitive therapy is based on the perspective that what a person is thinking directly affects their mood and behavior.Tx consists of an attempt to help a person recognize whether the thought they are having e.g. "my future is hopeless" is connected to their depressed mood Through a a process of examination the thought is recognized as not rational/logical and consequently can be changed into a more rational one e.g " I am facing difficult problems but with help and effort I can cope with these problems" .This process does require a certain amount of psychological mindedness but not more than what most people have.Whether being "awake' would help or not I think would depend on how you define"awake".
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote: > > > > RG:> > * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really > > > see where I am asking you to "see" much of anything; I am > > > just trying to point out where our suffering lies... > > > JS: You don't see the disconnect between what comes before > > the semicolon in what you just wrote and what comes after > > it? > > RG: Yes, I was aware you might take it as such, but I thought I would try > again. So let me get this straight; are you saying that you equate > sensitivity to your own bodymind and the ability to tell how it feels (or how > you feel) when you think a given thought, with being Awake, and that not > being Awake you aren't able -- though you have honestly given it a try -- to > tell when holding a specific thought makes you feel good or bad? > > > > in lies; in our resistance to the way things are in this > > > moment: how we feel stressed, frustrated, worried, heavy, > > > tense, angry, contracted, or whatever when we are > > > "shoulding" all over ourselves or others :-) > > > > > > I don't know; it would seem to me that virtually all of us, > > > "Awake" or not, could comprehend this if they have the > > > ability to notice how their own bodymind feels to them when > > > they hold a given thought. This stuff is making a great deal > > > of sense to many thousands of "ordinary" people on this > > > planet; > > > JS: Is it up for a vote? > > RG: I think actually it's already been voted on by the hundreds of thousands > of people who have read and enjoyed Tolle, or watched him on Oprah, or read > Byron Katie, and so on. I have no doubt that both of these authors will make > no sense to many millions if not billions more, however. > > > do we really think all of them are classically > > > "Awake"? I have no clue, nor do I really care. It's enough > > > that it seems to work for them. > > > > > > However, if there are, say, Jungian personality types that > > > are congenitally unable to do this kind of work, that would > > > be very good to know! > > > JS: Are you aware of how pissed off you are at my responses? And > > are you aware of how much "shoulding" you're doing, even if > > you aren't using the word? > > > * * * Well, I certainly am no stranger to anger or to shoulds; I have found > an astounding abundance of both in me, and would and will be most happy to > find more, as every one I find untangles into that much more delight! But > no, not right now; I am not aware of any in particular. I am feeling excited > and a bit skeptical, though; I am trying to understand where you're coming > from -- if you are a whole new kind of being, so to speak! >
