> >
>
> Thanks, shanti. It's good to know that being "Awake" isn't a prerequisite for
> having common sense.
If being "awake' was a prerequisite for having common sense
then obviously very few people would have common sense
OTOH maybe being awake is a prerequisite for common sense since
a cursory review of the daily news would indicate that common sense
is frequently in short supply.:)
> > >
> > > RG:> > * * * I am so sorry for the disconnect, Judy! I don't really
> > > > > see where I am asking you to "see" much of anything; I am
> > > > > just trying to point out where our suffering lies...
> > > >
> > > JS: You don't see the disconnect between what comes before
> > > > the semicolon in what you just wrote and what comes after
> > > > it?
> > >
> > > RG: Yes, I was aware you might take it as such, but I thought I would try
> > > again. So let me get this straight; are you saying that you equate
> > > sensitivity to your own bodymind and the ability to tell how it feels (or
> > > how you feel) when you think a given thought, with being Awake, and that
> > > not being Awake you aren't able -- though you have honestly given it a
> > > try -- to tell when holding a specific thought makes you feel good or bad?
> > >
> > > > > in lies; in our resistance to the way things are in this
> > > > > moment: how we feel stressed, frustrated, worried, heavy,
> > > > > tense, angry, contracted, or whatever when we are
> > > > > "shoulding" all over ourselves or others :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know; it would seem to me that virtually all of us,
> > > > > "Awake" or not, could comprehend this if they have the
> > > > > ability to notice how their own bodymind feels to them when
> > > > > they hold a given thought. This stuff is making a great deal
> > > > > of sense to many thousands of "ordinary" people on this
> > > > > planet;
> > > >
> > > JS: Is it up for a vote?
> > >
> > > RG: I think actually it's already been voted on by the hundreds of
> > > thousands of people who have read and enjoyed Tolle, or watched him on
> > > Oprah, or read Byron Katie, and so on. I have no doubt that both of these
> > > authors will make no sense to many millions if not billions more, however.
> > >
> > > > do we really think all of them are classically
> > > > > "Awake"? I have no clue, nor do I really care. It's enough
> > > > > that it seems to work for them.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, if there are, say, Jungian personality types that
> > > > > are congenitally unable to do this kind of work, that would
> > > > > be very good to know!
> > > >
> > > JS: Are you aware of how pissed off you are at my responses? And
> > > > are you aware of how much "shoulding" you're doing, even if
> > > > you aren't using the word?
> > > >
> > > * * * Well, I certainly am no stranger to anger or to shoulds; I have
> > > found an astounding abundance of both in me, and would and will be most
> > > happy to find more, as every one I find untangles into that much more
> > > delight! But no, not right now; I am not aware of any in particular. I
> > > am feeling excited and a bit skeptical, though; I am trying to understand
> > > where you're coming from -- if you are a whole new kind of being, so to
> > > speak!
> > >
> >
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