I am still reading - its a pretty extraordinary book, to me anyway. You are
quite the writer and should I ever be able to write to that level, I will be a
happy man.
I am still feeling energy, sometimes with a Capital "E." Some I might expect
such as the account of Rama allowing the golden light to glow and glow and glow
in the room, the Buddha meditation in the Hawaiian restaurant, but some of the
strongest Energy was when I read the chapter "Style" about how you live your
life when no one else is watching (and how you decorate a house) - Maybe I am
just wanting to feel a lot so I am doing so at odd moments.
Anyhow I am gonna take a break for the night and see what tomorrow brings -
thanks again for sharing this link - I'm getting a lot out of it.
MJ
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On Thu, 1/16/14, TurquoiseB <turquoi...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible thing.
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 7:47 PM
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson
wrote:
>
> I am still feeling tons of palpable energy even as I go
about my day. Will get back to you on that in a while.
Interesting. I always wondered
about that.
I know that I often felt incredible waves of energy while
writing many of the stories, but I didn't know whether
that could "communicate" or come across to someone
who wasn't there. I've had other Rama students tell
me that they "felt" something, but they were
there, and thus could just be having some memory being
triggered.
I haven't gone back and read RTM myself in quite some
time, so it's difficult for me to even remember all that
I wrote back then. But what I can remember is that the
"highest" stories from my point of view were
probably the tsakli stories (by definition some of the
highest moments of my life) and the two scorpion stories.
> --------------------------------------------
> On Thu, 1/16/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@... wrote:
>
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a terrible
thing.
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 7:21 PM
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson
> wrote:
> >
> > I changed my day so I could delve into what you
had
> written - I have gone through a lot of it and it
answers
> most of my questions. Mainly I wanted to know if you
thought
> Rama was legit in the beginning and if you witnessed
any of
> the power or sidhi demonstrations he did. Obviously
yes to
> both.
>
> If by "legit" you mean
> enlightened, I don't know. What I do know is that
in the
> beginning he was a nicer guy and a better teacher, and
was
> obviously going through *something*. What that
something was
> I still don't know; all I know is that it radiated
so
> strongly you could feel it. Meditate with the man and
there
> was no issue of stopping thoughts. You couldn't
*have*
> thoughts. The silence was that profound.
>
> As for the performance of sidhis, yes I witnessed
them, as
> did literally thousands of other people over the
years, but
> again, I can't claim to "know what was
> happening." All I can say is that it DID happen
for me,
> subjectively, and that it was kinda neat to see. I was
never
> as wowed out as some people were by the sidhis,
strangely
> enough because I stilled believed in something
Maharishi had
> said earlier (and later changed his mind about), that
sidhis
> did not mean enlightenment, and vice-versa. Apples
and
> oranges. No relation between the two.
>
> Interestingly enough, especially given your next
comment,
> the real phwam! of seeing these things was not so
much
> seeing them but FEELING them. *Whatever* was going on,
there
> was a palpable field of energy that surrounding it
that just
> knocked my socks off.
>
> > I had a hard time reading much of it because I
began to
> feel a great deal of energy as soon as I started
reading, I
> mean LOTS of energy. So I am taking the reading in
stages.
> Read a little. Sweep my floors a little, clean the
> bathrooms, come down off the energy a little and read
a
> little more.
>
> Interesting to hear that you
> felt something while reading it. I certainly did
while
> writing it.
>
> > Two minor questions I have are:
> >
> > Did you know this guy? Mark Laxer
>
> Yes. We were friends in the
> early days, but he was one of the early defectors, and
I
> just haven't run into him since. I'm sure he
had
> some interesting things to say in his memoir piece
about
> Rama, but I haven't read it.
>
> > Have you ever read his book Take Me for a Ride:
Coming
> of Age in a Destructive Cult Paperback?
>
> No. It's difficult for me to
> read other students' books about Rama, because 1)
> I'm not really that interested in the guy these
days,
> and 2) what they experienced was what *they*
experienced. It
> may or may not map to my experience, and neither of us
is
> "right" about what we saw and experienced,
or what
> we think of him. We just saw and experienced what we
> experienced, that's all.
>
> > If so is it accurate?
>
> Can't help you. As I said, I
> haven't read it.
>
> > That's all - back to the energy now and
thanks for
> talking and thanks for writing about Rama and all the
other
> things you wrote about.
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Thu, 1/16/14, Michael Jackson mjackson74@
wrote:
> >
> > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a
> terrible thing.
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 4:02 PM
> >
>
> > Thanks Barry - I am gonna read what you
have
> > written and if I have any questions after that,
> I'll
> > send 'em.
> >
> > Got a busy day today, but I intend to start
reading it
> later
> > tonight.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> >
> > On Thu, 1/16/14, TurquoiseB turquoiseb@
> > wrote:
> >
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Apostasy, is a
terrible
> thing.
> >
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >
> > Date: Thursday, January 16, 2014, 8:21 AM
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael
Jackson
>
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would like to have a conversation with
you
> about
> > your
> > time with Rama if you are willing. I am more
than
> happy to
> > do it privately if you like cause I know some
on here
> are
> > going to revile you no matter what you say. So
can
> we
> > talk?
> >
> >
> >
> > I don't mind, as long as you
> >
> > understand a few things at the outset. First,
I
> rarely
> > even
> >
> > think about the dude any more, except when
something
> >
> > triggers a memory, as something you said in one
of
> your
> >
> > posts did yesterday. Second, I don't waste
my
> time
> >
> > either condemning or defending him -- he was
what he
> was,
> >
> > and I don't much care what anyone thinks
about
> him.
> >
> >
> >
> > Third, however, and as you say, if we do it
here you
> can
> >
> > expect a lot of "piling on" from
stalkers
> here.
> >
> > They'll do it for various reasons. Some
will
> start
> >
> > piling on when they hear tales of thousands of
his
> > students
> >
> > witnessing siddhis they've *still* only
read
> about,
> >
> > after 30 years of pursuing them and after
paying
> thousands
> >
> > of dollars to supposedly learn them. Some will
pile
> on
> >
> > because they don't like me, and they
mistakenly
> > believe
> >
> > that if they diss a former teacher I still have
some
> >
> > positive feelings about, it'll push my hot
> buttons the
> >
> > same way me saying things about MMY pushes
theirs,
> and
> > thus
> >
> > I'll react and get into one of the
Robin-like
> >
> > "confrontations" with them they so
hope
> for.
> >
> >
> >
> > That's not gonna happen, so we might as
well do
> it
> > here.
> >
> > :-) But I'll warn you ahead of time that
my
> attention
> >
> > span for "things Rama-related" is
pretty
> damned
> >
> > short these days, so if you have questions,
make the
> first
> >
> > few "count," because at some point
I'll
> get
> >
> > tired of the whole thing and bail. :-)
> >
> >
> >
> > That said, ask anything you want, and I'll
do my
> best
> > to
> >
> > answer your questions as honestly as I wrote
> "Road
> > Trip
> >
> > Mind." That would be a good place to start
if
> you are
> >
> > actually curious about the dude. I wrote it to
get
> the
> >
> > Rama-monkey off my back, and it worked. I
don't
> > actually
> >
> > have a great deal more to say about the guy
than I
> said in
> >
> > that book.
> >
> >
> >
> >
http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind/index.html
> >
> > ÂÂ
> >
>
