Oh, Oh, OH!   My mistake!

My memory was running things together.  Thanks for setting me straight, DJA!

I take it all back.  About the video, that is.

I'm not sure if I retract the "100% vaporware" label, though.  It still
seems to fit (actually Mr. Patterson applied it, first, but I jumped in
with both feet, partially in mouth).

Yeah, I don't - it's still vaporware.

Raymond Horton
Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
Composer, Arranger
VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com


On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 3:06 AM, Darcy James Argue <djar...@earthlink.net>wrote:

> Again, that spoofed video that you guys are talking about is for a
> completely different product, ThinkMusic.
>
> Steinberg's Daniel Spreadbury (formerly of Sibelius) is one of the people
> who helped *expose* it.
>
> I repeat my link:
>
>
> http://www.sibeliusblog.com/news/makers-of-music-handwriting-app-video-used-sibelius-and-goodreader-to-create-dramatization/
>
> Cheers,
>
> - DJA
> -----
> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org
>
> On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:25 AM, Raymond Horton <horton.raym...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > The video is what made it instant vaporware.
> >
> > That video reminded me of the movie "Tucker."
> >
> > (I'm assuming that there was some Hollywood compression and exaggeration
> in
> > the film, but for these purposes I'll take the film as as fact.)
> >
> > Tucker and cronies crammed together a car for an early showing that was a
> > total sham, but eventually came up with a product that was innovative
> and a
> > classic.  (He then was forced out of business by corrupt pols in league
> > with the Big Three automakers, but let's hope that is not part of the
> > notation story.)
> >
> > If that movie stopped after that first bogus showing we would have no
> idea
> > if the Tucker (car) ever came to be.  That's where we are now, with the
> > Steinberg-Spreadbury notation app.    We had the bogus preview video
> (which
> > I cannot seem to locate, now) and bright people are hard at work behind
> the
> > scenes, but only the air expended on their promises is out there.
> > Vaporware.
> >
> > As I said, I wish them only the best.  Their success could only help the
> > industry, just as that of Sibelius did.
> >
> > Raymond Horton
> > Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
> > Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
> > Composer, Arranger
> > VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 2:37 PM, Craig Parmerlee <cr...@parmerlee.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/17/2013 2:18 PM, Raymond Horton wrote:
> >>> I think Steinberg notation software is, at this point, the poster boy
> >> for "100%
> >>> vaporware."  They put out a video with demos made on a totally
> different
> >>> product, for goodness' sake!
> >>>
> >>> I wish them only the best, and hope the ultimate product does all that
> is
> >>> promised and more, but only vapor is available now.
> >>>
> >> But they are not representing it as a product, only as a development
> >> project.  While the implication may be that they indent to produce a
> >> discrete notation product that would be "Sibelius: The Next Generation",
> >> if you will, it is possible that these efforts would roll back into the
> >> Cubase platform to extends its notation capabilities.
> >>
> >> I don't think suppliers should ever be discouraged from talking about
> >> the future as long as they aren't making any solid promises they can't
> >> keep.
> >>
> >> The natural inclination of software suppliers (incumbents especially) is
> >> to clam up.  There can be several reasons for this:
> >>
> >> 1) If what they have to say isn't all that impressive, that will lose
> >> loyalty during the incubation period.
> >> 2) If what they have to say is so-so, they would rather hold everything
> >> for a big flashy announcement.
> >> 3) If what they have to say is really impressive, they don't want to
> >> give the competition a chance to get organized against their messages.
> >>
> >> And conversely, a newcomer is more likely to talk openly:
> >>
> >> 1) To get some attention
> >> 2) To start to dislodge loyalties with the incumbents
> >> 3) To freeze people from buying competitor upgrades in the interim
> >> 4) If they decide the incumbents aren't really competing very much
> anyway.
> >>
> >> We will have to wait until 2016 to see what 2016 really looks like, but
> >> I don't see where some speculation hurts anyone.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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