Vladimyr, I agree with you that my situation was too complex, that was part of my point (i.e., that if that is what Mohammed is thinking about, it is awfully complex). But he wants to model systems with rules, in which rules made for purpose A can be corrupted so they do not serve A, and rather serve some other agent's goal B. I'm not sure what the simplest simulation would be that allow such phenomenon. Still seems like it would need to be oddly complicated.
Such ideas connect strongly with the notion of "exaptation" in evolutionary biology, and with simulation work on the evolution of deceptive signaling. Alas, I'm not sure they connect strongly to your notion of modeling emotion, or my notion of modeling distributed information hiding. Eric P.S. While I agree with you about the nature of most people, I try to never to underestimate people's amazing ability to make very simple situaitons into very complicated situations, especially when in groups. Take the US tax code for example..... On Sun, May 8, 2011 08:35 PM, "Vladimyr Burachynsky" <vbur...@shaw.ca> wrote: > Perhaps Gullibility is an advantage in small societies but it strikes me as >very hard to explain in one as large as ours. >Gulibility and conformity have been stumbling blocks with regards to >evolution at least for me. >I can understand that Human Beings directed sheep evolution for our benefit >but our own seems so alike > >Vladimyr Ivan Burachynsky PhD > > >vbur...@shaw.ca > > >Sky Drive Site >http://cid-14a5cdb09aee4237.photos.live.com/self.aspx/CSA/Braiding%20Simulat >ions/ExperStruct.wmv > >120-1053 Beaverhill Blvd. >Winnipeg,Manitoba, R2J3R2 >Canada > (204) 2548321 Land >(204) 8016064 Cell > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf >Of Russell Standish >Sent: May-08-11 7:26 PM >To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group >Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Modeling obfuscation (was - Terrorosity and it's >Fruits) > >On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 06:17:04PM -0500, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote: >> >> >> It is an old joke , but the more people in the room the dumber it gets. >> > >Having grown up on a sheep farm, I can say this definitely applies to sheep. >An individual sheep is quite difficult to control, and I have a lot of >respect for its intelligence. Sheep in mobs, on the other hand, are >gobsmackingly stupid, and it only requires a man and his dog to control a >mob of a hundred animals... > >-- > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) >Principal, High Performance Coders >Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au >University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >============================================================ >FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, >unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > >============================================================ >FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > Eric Charles Professional Student and Assistant Professor of Psychology Penn State University Altoona, PA 16601
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