Let's see if I understand you correctly, Owen. There are a bunch of fundamentalist Islamists all up in arms shouting "Allahu Akhbar" whilst burning down our embassies and killing our diplomats because there is a film out that is derogatory of the Muslim religion.
And this is not about religion? I don't see it. Or you don't see it. What I do see is that there is one very large disconnect on this particular issue. --Doug On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote: > I do not believe this to be a religious issue at all. The question is of > groups and institutions. > > When a faction of a group becomes apparently insane, do we not expect the > entire group, its leaders and majority, to speak up and to mend? > > When civil rights were an issue in the south, many of us (I was at Georgia > Tech) spoke up, and indeed many churches of all stripes did so. Many NRA > members also speak up about the extreme position the organization takes. > Examples abound. And yes, I consider this a Complexity domain, much like > Miller's Applause model. > > Isn't this possibly a cultural issue? Possibly regional? The largest > Muslim population is not Libya or Egypt or even all of the middle east, > its Indonesia. They do not appear to have this issue. > > So my question stands as Kofi stated: > "Where are the leaders? Where is the Majority? Nobody speaks up." > NOT the religious leaders but the leaders of the culture in which the > religion lies. > > And Hussein, forgive me, but your inward religious stance has nothing to > do with speaking out against injustice. It is not a religious issue, but a > civic, cultural one. > > -- Owen > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins <http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins> 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell
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