Or there's a bunch of irate terrorists/loonies/freedom fighters that
hijack the Islamic cause because they can't stand America(ns) and want
to hurt us as much as possible - pursuing 'death by a thousand cuts' and
know they can rile up the locals to act/riot/revolt.
Or has this theory been discredited.
Robert C
On 9/14/12 10:24 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote:
Let's see if I understand you correctly, Owen.
There are a bunch of fundamentalist Islamists all up in arms shouting
"Allahu Akhbar" whilst burning down our embassies and killing our
diplomats because there is a film out that is derogatory of the Muslim
religion.
And this is not about religion?
I don't see it.
Or you don't see it.
What I do see is that there is one very large disconnect on this
particular issue.
--Doug
On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net
<mailto:o...@backspaces.net>> wrote:
I do not believe this to be a religious issue at all. The
question is of groups and institutions.
When a faction of a group becomes apparently insane, do we not
expect the entire group, its leaders and majority, to speak up and
to mend?
When civil rights were an issue in the south, many of us (I was at
Georgia Tech) spoke up, and indeed many churches of all stripes
did so. Many NRA members also speak up about the extreme position
the organization takes. Examples abound. And yes, I consider
this a Complexity domain, much like Miller's Applause model.
Isn't this possibly a cultural issue? Possibly regional? The
largest Muslim population is not Libya or Egypt or even all of the
middle east, its Indonesia. They do not appear to have this issue.
So my question stands as Kofi stated:
"Where are the leaders? Where is the Majority? Nobody speaks up."
NOT the religious leaders but the leaders of the culture in which
the religion lies.
And Hussein, forgive me, but your inward religious stance has
nothing to do with speaking out against injustice. It is not a
religious issue, but a civic, cultural one.
-- Owen
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