And to be fair, at least the Elites we're discussing, I think, are for both
helping reduce poverty and providing free/affordable higher education. How
so very Euro!

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:

> Re: Elites -- I think the most important part of the concept is that they
> aren't even aware they *are* elite. They just keep trucking. And no blame,
> just maybe a bit of humility and self awareness would be good for them to
> add to their mix.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:04 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 6:15 PM, Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> wr
>> ote:
>>
>>> If Trump were to win this election, the number one reason is the
>>> insistence of democrats and liberals to demonize and marginalize the
>>> populace supporting Trump.
>>>
>>> If the only people that support him are "angry" racist" "xenophobic"
>>> "out-of-work-white-men" "could-not-graduate-from-college-because-of-low-IQ"
>>> etc. etc. he could not possibly command more than 10% of the vote.
>>>
>>> Trump is a terrible person — but NOT atypical of the population in
>>> general. Projecting his worst qualities onto the masses that support him is
>>> a huge, hopefully fatal, strategic mistake on the part of the Clinton
>>> campaign. But it would be simply a continuation of a fifty year trend: a
>>> small elite that firmly believe they are the only ones capable of and
>>> deserving of running the government and that anyone that opposes them is
>>> ignorant and dangerous.
>>>
>>> davew
>>>
>>
>> Thank God some of us are taking seriously the "But Why?" question re:
>> Trump's popularity. Thank you!
>>
>> We simply must take seriously the fact that nearly half of the US is
>> going to vote for Trump, and ask yourself "Why?".
>>
>>    -- Owen
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 5, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>>>
>>> My opinion: scorn is a very powerful position; you can be scornful of
>>> God.  People who feel powerless and left out find Trump appealing because
>>> they identify with the power implied by his scorn of the elite, the
>>> establishment, etc.  Remember Spiro Agnew calling the educated "pointy
>>> headed intellectuals"?
>>>
>>> In the meantime I'm very concerned with who's going to win the election.
>>>
>>> Frank
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank Wimberly
>>> Phone (505) 670-9918
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 5, 2016 12:59 PM, "Owen Densmore" <o...@backspaces.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> A quote from the article is pretty telling:
>>>
>>> In America today, compared with 50 years ago, three times as many
>>> working-age men are completely outside the work force. This pattern is
>>> occurring throughout the developed world — and the consequences are not
>>> merely economic. Feeling superfluous is a blow to the human spirit. It
>>> leads to social isolation and emotional pain, and creates the conditions
>>> for negative emotions to take root.
>>>
>>>
>>> If I were one of them, I'd surely vote Trump.
>>>
>>> We do need to get over "who's going to win?" and ask "why has Trump got
>>> such a *huge* following?"
>>>
>>>    -- Owen
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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