It might not be too late to start the free edX course on voting fraud.
https://www.edx.org/course/us-voting-access-fraud-davidsonx-davnowxvoting .

Cody Smith

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 10:43 AM, ┣glen┫ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Dave's screed does not take the question seriously.  It (over)simply
> accuses the Clinton campaign of over-simplifying.  (Then it goes a step
> further and hopes Clinton's oversimplifying is fatal so that the other
> oversimplifier wins the election.)  But we don't want to commit tu quoqe.
> Just because Dave's guilty of the same thing both Clinton and Trump are
> guilty of doesn't make him wrong.
>
> What makes Dave's screed wrong is that Trump is NOT typical, not even in
> the slightest.  To say that Trump is not atypical of the population in
> general is a massive error.  To say that Trump is not atypical even of his
> supporters is only a major error.  Heck, even Peter Thiel (whatever
> repugnant political views he may hold) is so seriously different from
> Trump, any comparison will fail.  So, were Dave to extract his gist from
> its surrounding wrongness, it would be a tiny bit better: Trump is not his
> supporters.  He is (merely) the emergent tool (naturfact) latched onto by
> that demographic.
>
> Trump's success during this campaign reflects the populism that is gaining
> ground all over the world.  And it's systemic (neither all good, nor all
> bad) to democratic systems.  And the founding fathers knew about it.  We've
> discussed it some on this list cf Arrow's Theorem, etc.  Ranting about
> elitism throws the baby out with the bathwater.
>
>
> On 11/07/2016 09:04 AM, Owen Densmore wrote:
> > Thank God some of us are taking seriously the "But Why?" question re:
> Trump's popularity. Thank you!
> >
> > We simply must take seriously the fact that nearly half of the US is
> going to vote for Trump, and ask yourself "Why?".
>
>
> --
> ␦glen?
>
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