Interesting, Steve. "Populism" has long had a negative meaning for me. Maybe that's because I took a couple of undergraduate courses that focussed on Huey Long. In one of them (at Berkeley) the claim was made that Roosevelt saved the US from more radical solutions, represented by Long, with the New Deal. Ironically, my father's uncle, who was also a Louisiana politician, was a sometimes enemy of his. Uncle Shirley Wimberly wrote a monograph in which he referred to Long as "the Crawfish". He was usually called the Kingfish.
Here's the reference: http://www.worldcat.org/title/unmasking-crawfish-huey-p-long/oclc/9752600 Frank Wimberly Phone (505) 670-9918 On Nov 10, 2016 8:43 PM, "Steven A Smith" <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: > Until fairly recently I didn't realize that "Populism" carried a negative > connotation. I had always heard it as a positive thing... > > The tie between populism and the rise of fascism changed that for me. I > suppose *pure* populism is in fact fine, the awareness that the general > population, the overwhelming majority of the citizenry, when pushed, can > stand up to the elite (economic or political or both) who tend to find ways > to run things for their own purposes without regard to the interests of the > masses. > > It seems that the current use of the term "populism" implies that the > extant elite de-facto rulers can have THEIR lunch handed to them by another > elite set of wanna-bes through the duping of the populace. Hitler's rise > to power was apparently on the rising tide of a disaffected populace > through the use of "demagoguery, scapegoating, and conspiracism" according > to Fritzsche. This sounds just a bit (lot) too much like the working style > of Herr Donald Drumpf this round. > > I don't like being manipulated by "the powers that be", but it isn't a bit > more fun to have "the powers that wanna be" manipulate me into helping them > have their wishes. I *hope* some of Trumps Trumpeteers come to recognize > how they were duped in what to me seems like a fairly obvious manner. > > And meanwhile I hope that the rest of the world can learn something of > this movement from us (and the Brexiteers before us). > > <sigh> > > On 11/10/16 7:40 PM, Sarbajit Roy wrote: > > http://michaelmoore.com/trumpwillwin/ > > It seems that depressed economies imply we are going to have a rash of > fascism everywhere. Here's to World War III. Cheers. > > On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 3:55 PM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> > wrote: > >> Well put. This is not a game. >> >> >> On Tuesday, November 8, 2016, Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> wrote: >> >>> "The fact that world H and world D are such closely adjacent possibles >>> is what I am savoring (in the sense of morbid fascination) for roughly the >>> next 24-36 hours. " >>> >>> To first order, this isn't about the ideological aspirations of one >>> candidate vs. the other (or the completely irrelevant others). It's about >>> choosing between a person who can and has managed in relevant >>> circumstances, and a man-child that obviously needs to be managed and who >>> obviously draws-from and amplifies the worst in people, has many indicators >>> of an authoritarian personality, and is a likely target for blackmail and >>> manipulation by foreign powers. The potential upside of this non-contest >>> is that a thinker and policy wonk may sneak through as the winner by >>> default. Even stranger is that it would be historic -- and somehow that is >>> almost a footnote. The whole thing is surreal and even scarier than >>> Brexit. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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