I agree with you dark.
There have been a few devs I worked with one just recently that was
just a starter.
I have nothing against starters but there are those that start in a
cocky state, expect to earn from 500 coppies a month and get 2000 or
more enough to buy sfx.
They start a project get your stuff and then burn shortly after.
I had another some years back, he started got all my pictures and
other info for the game and other payment things, started off but
obviously burned as I never heard back from him with work.
In more recent times I have actually seen a few of those in reality
software burn.
Thing is when someone burns like that they don't recognise they are
doing so and you can't tell them that they are on fire.
But once they are burned out they die, some just die and some make a
drama out of it but once burned in most cases you are prity much done
with a few exceptions like rs group leader, how he has managed to
survive without completely burning is legendry and sertainly beyond me.
I have once or twice got close to burning myself its not a good thing
to burn yourself but its hard to not be on a role and then it all
comes down on you like a pile of burning stuff.
I do think with the critisism and other things that our devs are
quite carefull.
The rest don't know or have no idea how to start.
Sighted especially may know what to do but are not sure how to do it
for obvious reasons and the rest who knows.
I don't even know what the rest is anymore.
With the release of bgt and some of the otheer stuff of late the
first companies are not making much anymore.
But thats ok as the industry is going on its own pace.
But there are so many groups its hard to tell what is or isn't good these days.
And sometimes stuff popps out of the woodwork.
I just got a couple ren py novels fully accessable one comercial
yesterday and another one I really like which the author is working
on to make accessable and which I will buy later.
Ofcause some can be total wastes but the rest maybe.
At 11:31 p.m. 14/06/2015, you wrote:
Hi Tom.
I don't think it's a legal matter, or at least if it is most
developers are pretty quiet about it being such.
I suspect it's a combination of developers not asking, people not
offering, and of course the problem that particularly with thiungs
like voice acting, your dependent upon equipment quality, although
that is less of a concern these days than it used to be.
I will also admit I've noticed developers are sometimes unwill to
recognize their own short falls.
Take paladin of the skies, the script really! could've done with a
bit of a polish, just to remove some of the more clunky phrasing,
make the characters appear less childish and all in all give a
better experience, however I don't think it occurred to Aaron that
having a professional, or at least volunteer script writer with some
degree of writing cudos was something they needed.
All the best,
Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world
is vast and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the
stars than even the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Ward" <thomasward1...@gmail.com>
To: "Gamers Discussion list" <gamers@audyssey.org>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] info AudioGames Game Engine
Hi Dark,
You bring up a very good point, and to be honest I'm not quite sure
why the community hasn't been more active in supporting our developers
with sounds,music, scripts, whatever. It could be as simple as
developers haven't asked or developers have been closed to support
from outside help.
One issue I need to bring up is while volunteer work is wonderful it
also can be a bit sticky from a legal point of view. Copyrights aren't
necessarily designed for content to freely be given away so there has
to be written contracts that turns a license or the sharing of a
license over to a developer else it can be legally entangling if the
owner of a specific sound, music, script, whatever later decides they
want exorcize their rights as the owner of said copyrighted material
and that puts the developer in a bit of a bind. So it is possible that
some developers and community designers are hesitant of collaborating
from some legal standpoint.
That's only a guess of course, but there are reasons why things aren't
necessarily falling into place. It would be in our best interests to
find out those reasons and address them.
Cheers!
On 6/13/15, dark <d...@xgam.org> wrote:
Hi Tom.
While I'm sure your right as far as different developers go, one thing I
will say is that games are not just made by developers.
There are script writers, voice actors, sound designers. Even in the indi
graphical games community a coder doesn't do all ttheir own graphics, music
composition etc. One thing I always find a bit odd is the way that so many
people in the audiogames community play around with sounds for fun, yet none
of them put those tallents into sound design, or the way you have talented
writers and actors and yet such people do not seem to be getting in touch
with developers to assist for one reason or another.
Indeed, swamp is a good example sinse I do know that while all the coding
and large parts of the basic design are Aprones, he has had assistance from
several people as far as creating sounds go.
So, while I'm sure your right on collaboration with different developers, I
do think there would be milage in developers handing at least some aspects
of the production process over to other people.
All the best,
Dark.
There is always more to know, more to see, more to learn. The world is vast
and wondrous strange and there are more things benieth the stars than even
the archmaesters of the citadel can dream.
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