I am glad that I brought up the discussion on Tuscany graduation with Bill
Rowe at ApacheConEU 2008.  Happy to see this gain momentum and the positive
responses :).

++Vamsi

On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Niclas Hedhman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 13 April 2008 19:30, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
> > IMHO the emphasis on committer affiliation is misguided. overloading
> > the word diversity was also probably a mistake. maybe we need to focus
> > on narrower concepts with alternative names.
> >
> > 1. the incubator should be concerned about the composition of the
> > proposed PMC.
> >
> > 2. for a top level project to succeed, it needs to be able to
> > encrourage, recruit and mentor new independent developers.
>
> +1.
>
> Also, my personal and highly subjective interpretation of the (if present)
> intent around diversity boils down to one scenario;
>
> * A company pulls the plug for paid developers - will the project survive?
>
> Other cases of dominance have been brought up, such as forcing the
> company's
> will upon the community, rejection to expand the developer community and
> PMC
> membership, and so forth. I find these issues less important, as ASF
> Members
> can (and should) monitor PMCs in general and raise flags to the board if
> misuse is happening, and we have been there before and can deal with it.
>
> So, for the case of Tuscany; I am satisfied with the diversity goal, and
> encourage Tuscany community with the aid of Mentors to move for
> graduation.
>
>
> Cheers
> --
> Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
>
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