On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 1:59 PM Jim Jagielski <j...@jagunet.com> wrote: > > On Jul 3, 2019, at 2:37 PM, Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org> wrote: > > > > > > This is correct. Provided we *do* explicitly acknowledge that special > > status of the Incubator. > > > > This acknowledgement will basically put podling source code releases > > at the same level we have convenience binary releases. Which is: they > > are NOT acts of the foundation. > > > > IMO, we want 2 things: > > 1. Podlings, and PPMC members, to enjoy the legal protection of the > foundation when they do a release
Let's be pedantic and define those in this particular case, shall we? What exactly are the expectations for PPMC members? > 2. The outside world, and esp downstream end-users, to know that podling > releases should be expected to not be fully compliant with the normal > expectations associated w/ PMC releases. > > #1 requires them to be acts of the foundation; #2 requires easily visible and > discoverable disclaimers. > > Anything else just seems excessive and somewhat unwarranted, I think. Let's > make it as easy as possible, and as painless as possible, for podlings to > learn; Heck, at the start of The Apache Group and the ASF, we didn't do > everything right; we tried some things and some failed. It's in the nature of > education and mentoring. Making mistakes is not a problem; not learning from > them is. > > After we resolve this, I *really* would like to switch the convo around to a > discussion as deep, and as involved, but related to the other (IMO, more > important) side of the Incubator coin: education in the Apache Way. So much > derives from that... even the legal considerations of releases ultimately can > be found there, IMO. And I still maintain that we do a Not-So-Good job here. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
