What about the portions of the Unicode copyright? Thank you, Nadya Morozova
>-----Original Message----- >From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 5:06 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is >outdated > >as an intel person, you can remove an intel copyright. if it's an ASF >copyright, you can remove that too from the document (it should be >auto-generated at the bottom anyway) > > >geir > > >Egor Pasko wrote: >> On the 0x220 day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova wrote: >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Egor Pasko >>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:40 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is >>>> outdated >>>> >>>> On the 0x220 day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova wrote: >>>>> Ok, >>>>> I'll use http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/HARMONY-2150 to get an >>>>> initial patch for the getting started document, and we can then work >>> to >>>>> improve it. >>>> OK, I am "watching" it >>>> >>>>> Let's make it a short page with links to wiki and maybe some how-tos. >>>> To summarize: >>>> * we agreed that there will be no eclipse screenshots (they are for >>>> eclipse+drlvm page) >>>> * we agreed that there should be something like "see what kind of >>>> links we have" >>>> >>>> Am I right? >>> [Nadya] >>> Yop, quite right. An additional enhancement would be to comment out >>> copyrights and update info that is incorrect. >> >> remove these annoyed substances? I am not an expert in copyright law, >> not sure we can remove them. But copyright notices are not what I >> desire to look at on the "getting started" page. >> >>> Not sure I'll fix everything, but can give a start. Thanks for all your >>> help. >> >> u r welcome >> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Nadya Morozova >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Egor Pasko >>>>> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:10 AM >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" is >>>>> outdated >>>>> >>>>> On the 0x21D day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova wrote: >>>>>> Egor, >>>>>> I think we're mixing things up a bit, or at least our perceptions >>> of >>>>>> various docs. I'd not call what you're suggesting a tutorial - it's >>>>> more >>>>>> of a howto doc, right? We are lucky to have Salikh write this "How >>> to >>>>>> write a GC?" Doc - do you mean something similar for "DRLVM >>>>> Command-line >>>>>> Args Tutorial"? >>>>> on Wikipedia: >>>>> * A _how-to_ is an informal, often short, description of how to >>>>> accomplish >>>>> some specific task >>>>> * A _tutorial_ is a document, software, or other media created for >>> the >>>>> purpose of instruction for any of a wide variety of tasks >>>>> >>>>> yes, I mix those terms :) >>>>> >>>>>> As suggested earlier, we can store drlvm+eclipse specifics on >>> another >>>>>> page = see JIRA 2009. cmd options reference is on wiki, but a short >>>>>> howto will be marvelous - illustrating usage of common options, >>>>> solving >>>>>> typical problems by using our vm correctly, etc. >>>>>> Does anybody volunteer to help? >>>>> let's collect the options first. To choose between them for the howto >>>>> >>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>> Nadya Morozova >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Egor Pasko >>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 4:06 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with DRL" >>> is >>>>>> outdated >>>>>> >>>>>> On the 0x21D day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova wrote: >>>>>>> Alexei, >>>>>>> Tutorials might be fine for mature projects, but I do not think >>> ours >>>>>> is >>>>>>> ready for a big flow of users yet, that would require a tutorial. >>>>>> we _are_ mature for a small tutorial :) >>>>>> >>>>>>> So +1 for having a nice good tutorial ... one day. >>>>>>> If there are volunteers to write the tutorial now, I'd be happy >>> to >>>>>> help >>>>>>> though. >>>>>> well, actually, I love tutorials too, especially the one for VIM :) >>>>>> some contraversal inside me..fighting..done >>>>>> >>>>>> let's then say "A Short Eclipse Tutorial with Harmony", and then >>>>>> "DRLVM Command-line Args Tutorial". Howabout that? >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>> Nadya Morozova >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Fedotov, Alexei A [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:40 PM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with >>>>> DRL" >>>>>> is >>>>>>> outdated >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like good tutorials. I learned VIM using a tutorial. I don't >>> need >>>>>> the >>>>>>> VIM tutorial any longer, but at the beginning it was useful. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> +1 for maintain Getting Started as is with minor changes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why Eclipse was chosen for the tutorial? Our goal was to use >>> Harmony >>>>>> for >>>>>>> Harmony development. I liked that idea. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With best regards, >>>>>>> Alexei Fedotov, >>>>>>> Intel Java & XML Engineering >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Egor Pasko >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:29 PM >>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started with >>> DRL" >>>>> is >>>>>>>> outdated >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On the 0x21D day of Apache Harmony Pavel Ozhdikhin wrote: >>>>>>>>> Nadya, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> One more proposal about "Getting Started": let's remove all >>>>> current >>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>> and write something like following: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "To the moment we got rid of all major differences from other >>>>> Java >>>>>>>>> implementations, so to use DRLVM you can just build it (here >>> goes >>>>>>> link to >>>>>>>>> readme with build instructions) and run as any other Java VM. >>> For >>>>>>>> commonly >>>>>>>>> used command-line options please look into the Wiki page (link >>> to >>>>>>>> Salikh's >>>>>>>>> page or to the document)." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> 1 page to hold only 4 lines of text? :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Pavel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10 Nov 2006 14:29:59 +0600, Egor Pasko >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On the 0x21D day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Good day to you, Egor! >>>>>>>>>> evening, dark and snowy evening :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> What do you say about the getting started doc? >>>>>>>>>> I expressed it recently. General idea is that Harmony >>> operates >>>>>> near >>>>>>>>>> the same as other JSE implementations. Almost all specifics >>> is >>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> extra options which we started collecting on Wiki for an >>> extra >>>>>>>>>> HOWTO-like page (BTW, thanks to Salikh for starting the >>> page). >>>>>>>>>> I believe, it is time to remove the "Getting Started". So, >>> +1 >>>>> to >>>>>>> Pavel >>>>>>>>>> Ozhdikhin here. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> BTW, I asked my dad to look at the website. Ideas for >>>>> improvement >>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>> him: >>>>>>>>>> 1) site-local search is useful for a beginner. Hm, Tomcat >>> has >>>>> it >>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>> links to google search. We can have something as soon as we >>> get >>>>>> to >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> desired TLP :) >>>>>>>>>> 2) it is not obvious that site misprints/problems should be >>>>>>> reported >>>>>>>>>> to the mailing list. Commercial websites have something like >>>>>>>>>> "support/suggestions mailto". We can point mailto to the >>>>> mailing >>>>>>> list >>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>> Nadya Morozova >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Egor >>>>> Pasko >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 8:55 AM >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started >>> with >>>>>> DRL" >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> outdated >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On the 0x21D day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Egor, >>>>>>>>>>>> I generally like the idea of improving navigation over >>> the >>>>>> site >>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>> there's never too much of that. However, I am not sure >>>>>> whether >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>> yet another separate page for introductory/guidance >>> info. I >>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> starting page + the generic pages we have are mostly >>> fine. >>>>>>> However, >>>>>>>>>>>> adding a link here and there to lead site visitors. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Getting started could be a more specific >>> project-oriented >>>>>> page. >>>>>>>> There, >>>>>>>>>>>> you can tell people to go <link>download</link>, >>>>>>> <link>build</link> >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> code. After which, they can start using it just as any >>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>> <link>RI-compatible</link> jdk. With the exceptions, see >>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>> <link>wiki</link> pages. >>>>>>>>>>>> To use the vm, readers might need to use the following >>>>>>> options... >>>>>>>>>>>> If they want to read more on our VM, they can visit the >>>>>>>>>>>> <link>component</link> page. If no website page contains >>> an >>>>>>> answer >>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>>>>> they can read <link>wiki faqa</link>. >>>>>>>>>>>> .. or something like that :) >>>>>>>>>>> Nadya, I really appreciate our efforts :) But this morning >>> I >>>>>> woke >>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>> and looked the site structure with the eye of a beginner. >>> And >>>>>>> could >>>>>>>>>>> not find any obvius flaws in the main structure. Left-side >>>>>>> collection >>>>>>>>>>> of links is in a very good shape, good for beginner-level >>>>>>> navigation >>>>>>>>>>> and contains almost all links you listed here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This was a really refreshing morning :) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'll ask some guys who are new to the project, how they >>> feel >>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> site. And will report back, if I find something. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Refreshing morning is over, now back to work.. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>> Nadya Morozova >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Egor >>>>>> Pasko >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:33 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting started >>>>> with >>>>>>> DRL" >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> outdated >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On the 0x21C day of Apache Harmony Pavel Ozhdikhin >>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/9/06, Morozova, Nadezhda >>>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egor, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just idea: "Getting Started" may contain a >>> collection >>>>> of >>>>>>> links >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> main website and other resources with short >>>>> descriptions >>>>>>> ("Site >>>>>>>>>>> Map" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something) so that people are comfortable >>> floating >>>>>>> around in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> web. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> We already have one page having links to the resources >>>>>> about >>>>>>>> DRLVM: >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/index.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you think we need another one? >>>>>>>>>>>> because it is only DRLVM. >>>>>>>>>>>> I think of something like "site map", a collection of >>>>> links. >>>>>>> Short >>>>>>>>>>>> descriptions to some basic ones. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +1 for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * preparing the "Commonly Used Options for DRLVM" >>>>>> (omitting >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> word >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "supported" intentionally) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Question on this one: will the page contain vm-only >>>>>>> options? >>>>>>>> What >>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>> JIT, GC, other? I'd have them all in one place, but >>> we >>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> separate >>>>>>>>>>>>>> docs for EM/jit stuff. What do you say? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we can describe basic options for every >>> component >>>>>>> there. >>>>>>>>>>> Only >>>>>>>>>>>> those >>>>>>>>>>>>> that might be interesting for any user. The place for >>>>> other >>>>>>>> options >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the run-time help or Developer's Guide for a >>> component. >>>>>>>>>>>> I thought of "most commonly used" options. They can >>>>> possibly >>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>> grouped by components, but not necessary. I would group >>>>> them >>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>> use-cases. BTW, "any user" is not an obvious substance >>> for >>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>>>>> So, the list is not obvious, we need to work it out. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I see it like HOWTOs. For example: >>>>>>>>>>>> "-Xem:jet <- use only baseline JIT compiler" >>>>>>>>>>>> "-Xem:opt <- use only optimising JIT compiler" >>>>>>>>>>>> "-Xtrace:em <- print method compilation events" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The 'big' question is: "does 'any user' need to know >>> about >>>>>> JITs >>>>>>>>>>>> switching?". I say YES, it helps users to investigate >>>>>> problems, >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> helps us, developers, to react on users' input faster. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Other options? I can enlist the set of most commonly >>> used >>>>> by >>>>>>> me. If >>>>>>>>>>>> many of us put their lists here, we can sum them up >>> quickly >>>>>> and >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>>>> a good (really useful) list of popular options. How >>> about >>>>>> that? >>>>>>>>>>>> BTW, the list should not be too big. 25 options is a >>> kind >>>>> of >>>>>>> limit >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavel >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nadya Morozova >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of >>>>> Egor >>>>>>> Pasko >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2006 5:51 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting >>> started >>>>>>> with >>>>>>>> DRL" >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outdated >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On the 0x21B day of Apache Harmony Nadezhda Morozova >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like to share everyone's grief at the sight of >>>>>>> outdated >>>>>>>>>>>> Getting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Started document. However, I'd not hurry to >>> eliminate >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> page >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>>>> such. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We might reconsider some of its contents, change >>>>>>> structure, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> update >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual bits, but please think carefully before >>>>>>> removing >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> page. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think Getting Started (as the title shows) is >>> aimed >>>>>> to >>>>>>> help >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> newbie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work with our vm. I know that many primarily >>>>> interested >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - conformance, architecture, internal specifics. >>>>>> However, >>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>>> also >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think how the vm is used. AFAIK, Getting started >>> is >>>>> now >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> *only* >>>>>>>>>>>> doc >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that tries to show how to use our vm. You tell >>> people >>>>>> how >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> download >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and build, but almost nothing about how to run and >>>>>>> configure >>>>>>>>>>> (with >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exception of EM/JIT). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My suggestion would be to think of what you want >>> to >>>>>> tell >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usage - with or without eclipse specifics. And >>> store >>>>>> this >>>>>>>> info >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> page. I know it is hard - and I offer my help and >>>>>> support >>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> burdensome initiative. Any thoughts? i might be >>>>>>> inobjective >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotional :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nadya, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe, almost everyone coming across Harmony >>> knows >>>>>> how >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>>>>>>> J5SE. We are striving for this compatibility, and we >>>>> are >>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> all DRLVM-specific pecularities are gone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, I vote for: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * removing the "Getting Started" (also because of >>>>>>> irritating >>>>>>>>>>> windows >>>>>>>>>>>>>> screenshots:) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * preparing the "Commonly Used Options for DRLVM" >>>>>> (omitting >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> word >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "supported" intentionally) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just idea: "Getting Started" may contain a >>> collection >>>>> of >>>>>>> links >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> main website and other resources with short >>>>> descriptions >>>>>>> ("Site >>>>>>>>>>> Map" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something) so that people are comfortable >>> floating >>>>>>> around in >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> web. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Mikhail Fursov >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 6:03 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [doc][drlvm] The document "Getting >>>>> started >>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>> DRL" >>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outdated >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's not a hard to write a documenation once, it's >>>>> hard >>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> support >>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More problems: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1) -Xem options are obsolete. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2) -Xjit options are also obsolete. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Do we really need this page today? AFAIU users >>>>>> expect >>>>>>>> Harmony >>>>>>>>>>>> VM is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run the same apps as RI.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 11/8/06, Pavel Ozhdikhin >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've read through the "Getting Started with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> DRL< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started >>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> " >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document on the Harmony web and found it >>> completely >>>>>>>> outdated, >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> example: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - the term DRL is used instead of DRLVM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - eclipse.bat and eclipse.sh are obsolete - >>> we >>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to run Eclipse. It can be started with DRLVM >>> the >>>>>>> same >>>>>>>> way >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VM. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - We don't need to set PATH and >>> LD_LIBRARY_PATH >>>>>>> anymore, >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows/MSVC >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - ij was renamed to java >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We took a big step to unification with other >>> Java >>>>> VMs >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't need anything specific to run Eclipse, >>> for >>>>>>>> example. >>>>>>>>>>>> After >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> removing >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all irrelevant info the document would contain >>> only >>>>>> the >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> command-line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> options. I think we can move this list to a >>>>> separate >>>>>>>> document >>>>>>>>>>>> (Wiki, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Developer's Guide?) and remove the "Getting >>>>> Started" >>>>>>>> itself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any opinions? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/subcomponents/drlvm/getting_started >>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mikhail Fursov >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Egor Pasko >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> Egor Pasko >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Egor Pasko >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Egor Pasko >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Egor Pasko >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Egor Pasko >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Egor Pasko >>>>> >>>> -- >>>> Egor Pasko >>
