So why are you still on this list? Give up already.

Timothy L Havener wrote:
> I had that hope after the custom tab debacle. I now no longer hold onto 
> it. I give up on Valve.
> 
> [ЯтR] The-/<iller wrote:
>> Hopefully its only nibbling in ignorance, as we are they're bread and 
>> butter, and hopefully it will be balanced in the end, keep console as 
>> console and PC above it all.
>>
>> Timothy L Havener wrote:
>>   
>>> Where once Valve was an innovator in the way we play online games they 
>>> have no become a force of complete destruction to the way we play PC 
>>> games.  By reverting to a console style server browser they have 
>>> devolved their game into an Idoit's Guide to Online Gaming.  This is 
>>> just another move on the chess board to marginalize server admins and 
>>> take complete control of the gaming experience.  Anyone who doesn't see 
>>> that is blind.  I had a little respect for them left after TF2 and it is 
>>> now gone. Keep pissing off admins, Valve, its always good to bite the 
>>> hand that feeds you.  I'm sure those uneducated gamers out there that 
>>> you are catering to will step up to the plate when all of us are gone.  
>>> Good luck with that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dj Satane wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>> Let me get something straight, Erik wrote: " When a player or two leaves
>>>> Left 4 Dead the game suffers quite a bit, and we were worried that the
>>>> server browser model wasn't the right one for this game."
>>>>
>>>> Erik, you don't explain the matchmaking how it solves the problem you
>>>> are talking about. How does "console style" matchmaking solves the problem
>>>> of people leaving a left 4 dead game? How does server browser supposedly
>>>> does not solve this problem?
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:08 PM, Erik Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>> First off, thanks to everyone for running servers for the demo. We knew
>>>>> going into the release that we were going to need to figure out some ways 
>>>>> to
>>>>> make it worth it for server administrators, and now we have a ton of
>>>>> feedback to work with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now we're looking at ways that server administrators can both build 
>>>>> a
>>>>> community around their game server (by subscribing to matchmaking) as well
>>>>> as service their group of "regulars" that play on their server. Hooking 
>>>>> game
>>>>> servers into Steam Community is going to be our first step, and we're
>>>>> working on that now.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a key difference between Left 4 Dead and games like 
>>>>> Counter-Strike
>>>>> and Team Fortress in terms of matchmaking that we wanted to solve, and
>>>>> didn't think the server browser could accomplish. In CS and TF2, you can
>>>>> have 2 or 3 players leave in the middle of a game, have their slots filled
>>>>> by new people, and everyone else's experience doesn't completely suffer.
>>>>> When a player or two leaves Left 4 Dead the game suffers quite a bit, and 
>>>>> we
>>>>> were worried that the server browser model wasn't the right one for this
>>>>> game. In hindsight, there are a number of cases where the server browser
>>>>> does a better job than the new matchmaking system does, so it is highly
>>>>> likely that we'll be adding it back in soon. It isn't trivially easy to 
>>>>> turn
>>>>> back on, but there is overlap between it and the Steam Community work we'd
>>>>> like to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Right now we're working toward getting that release out within a week or
>>>>> so.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a number of Valve employees reading all of the posts on this
>>>>> list, and while we can't reply to every question that comes across, the
>>>>> discussions here are ones we reference commonly when talking about what to
>>>>> do next internally.
>>>>>
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