Those aren't "my" player counts, those are the global player counts.
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:32 PM, James Haikin <jfrra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hint: they DGAF about your player count. > > -James > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> When will Valve realize was a bad decision? Player counts haven't been >> this low since last year, and there is no new FPS game. >> >> For those people claiming player counts get lower until summer vacation, >> they didn't drop as much as last year. >> >> After the change, the weekly high dropped by 5000. Compare to last year >> in the same time frame there is barely a 1000 player difference. How much >> more obvious does it need to get? >> >> 2014 >> http://i.imgur.com/xoUEHbr.png >> >> 2013 >> http://i.imgur.com/Rp9y2kD.png >> >> data from steamcharts.com >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:18 PM, E. Olsen <ceo.eol...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I think the issue here, is...there really is no longer any reason for >>> valve servers to be the "default" servers once a player has 8-12 hours in >>> the game. >>> >>> The minority of players who only want those random pub games on valve >>> servers now have that option - but the players who stick around in the >>> long-term will be the ones that find a "home" server/group of servers, not >>> those looking for the "x-box live" experience of random games with random >>> people every time. Honestly, if the TF2 team could see the chaos and lack >>> of teamwork that valve servers actually seem to encourage, I think they >>> would take a step back and realize that it really doesn't do the game any >>> justice. There is a reason some of the newer players have taken to calling >>> community servers "pubstomp" servers - it's because community servers are >>> where they fist come up against actual, cohesive teamwork - and they're >>> used to a bunch of random players just doing they're own thing. >>> >>> Frankly - I firmly believe the long-term health of the game rests with >>> community servers who provide diversity, supervision (to get rid of the >>> plethora of hackers/griefers, etc.), and a much better experience overall >>> (not to mention higher skill levels). >>> >>> In short - I agree with Mr. Paulson - give the new players a a few hours >>> of "mandatory" play on valve's servers to get their feet wet in the game, >>> and then open quickplay up to "all servers" by default and allow them to >>> see all the diversity that's out there. You've given the players the >>> "option" of going back to "valve-only" if they should want it, now lets >>> rollback the "mass punishment" (that was really killing a mosquito with a >>> sledgehammer), and give the server operators a fair shake again. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:14 PM, Chris Oryschak <ch...@oryschak.com>wrote: >>> >>>> It would be really nice to get some input on this from Valve. Since >>>> the change every day gets worse and worse for player activity on my servers >>>> thanks to the QP changes and lack of new players having the ability to find >>>> my servers. >>>> You can view the beautiful downward trend caused by these changes: >>>> >>>> http://i.imgur.com/uvlq056.png >>>> >>>> If anyone else is running the Player Analytics plugin just edit >>>> "data/sessions.php" and change "30 DAY" to "90 DAY". >>>> I'd love to see the same trends from other communities to help >>>> reinforce this bad change for all server ops. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:09 PM, Robert Paulson >>>> <thepauls...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> As I said before, the problem is not that the official servers only >>>>> option exists, the problem is that it is on by default. People too lazy to >>>>> use the browser are too lazy to use options. >>>>> >>>>> Again I would like to suggest automatically un-checking the official >>>>> servers only after 4-5 hours of play. Anything that requires manual >>>>> intervention will not solve the problem. >>>>> >>>>> For anyone arguing community servers are inferior again, I refer you >>>>> to this post. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/hlds_linux@list.valvesoftware.com/msg74795.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 5:03 PM, 1nsane <1nsane...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What about something similar like before where valve servers had an >>>>>> advantage over community servers with new players being sent to them (due >>>>>> to the valve server score boost)? >>>>>> >>>>>> Except this time just make it so all new players get sent to valve >>>>>> servers by default. And then after a certain amount of hours played it >>>>>> either defaults to all servers or pops up a message asking if community >>>>>> servers should be included and explaining a little bit about the other >>>>>> quickplay options and how to access them. >>>>>> >>>>>> I talked to plenty of players who weren't aware that quickplay search >>>>>> can be customized or that you need to click on the gear icon to bring up >>>>>> advanced search options. There's plenty of people who hate crits or >>>>>> default >>>>>> respawn times and yet they're not even aware of this functionality being >>>>>> part of quickplay. Or perhaps that's on purpose and maybe that's the >>>>>> reason >>>>>> why the icon is so tiny... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Jason Tango <jtrun...@outlook.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> As we approach the 2-month mark since Valve's servers were made the >>>>>>> "default" servers for all quickplay players, can the TF2 team give us a >>>>>>> time frame when they will return the system to a "level playing field" >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> all servers? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As it stands, the players who want to avoid all community servers >>>>>>> now have the ability to do so simply by clicking the "Official Server >>>>>>> Only" >>>>>>> button, so is it really necessary to keep driving nearly all quickplay >>>>>>> traffic away from community servers? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In fact, a better question would probably be - is it in TF2's best >>>>>>> (long-term) interest to do so? Helping players find a "home" server >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> they become a "regular" creates long-term players, and since so much >>>>>>> emphasis (in the design of the UI) has been placed on guiding players to >>>>>>> use quickplay, the longer that community servers are effectively >>>>>>> excluded >>>>>>> from that traffic, the more long-term players the game will likely lose. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The players that only want random games with random people on Valve >>>>>>> servers now have the option to make sure that's all they get, but >>>>>>> preventing the rest of the player base from experiencing all the >>>>>>> diversity >>>>>>> that the TF2 community can provide is both unnecessary and unfair to >>>>>>> those >>>>>>> of us who have never broken any rules, or violated any policies. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With that in mind, please consider leveling the playing field again >>>>>>> asap by including all community servers by default, and let the players >>>>>>> decide for themselves if they don't want to be a part of that community. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, guys. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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