Trev We shouldn't be shutting the gate before the cart of trying to close doors of possibilitys. They are designing tools as we speak to enable them to write on our brains as well as erase memorys.
Pulsed light has the capacity to be something digital. DROSOPHILA Schroll C, Riemensperger T, Bucher D, Ehmer J, Voller T, Erbguth K, Gerber B, Hendel T, Nagel G, Buchner E, Fiala A. (2006) Light-Induced Activation of Distinct Modulatory Neurons Triggers Appetitive or Aversive Learning in Drosophila Larvae. Curr Biol. 16(17):1741-1747. METHOD: GAL4-UAS flies. Mercury lamp, blue light-emitting diode (LED). Behavior. MAMMALIAN SLICE Ishizuka T, Kakuda M, Araki R, Yawo H. (2005) Kinetic evaluation of photosensitivity in genetically engineered neurons expressing green algae light-gated channels. Neurosci Res. 54(2):85-94. METHOD: Virus. Blue LED. Intact circuit, without retinal supplementation. LED advancements has lead to many digital advancements as I recall. And your comment of "No one is writing to brains" is not exactly true. Their is much research and experiments going on in this area. Univ of Wash Tel Aviv Univ MIT etc. Take Edward Boyden at MIT and Stanford Artificially firing neurons At MIT, he got a bachelor's in physics and bachelor's and master's in electrical engineering and computer science, all with a perfect grade- point average--and by the age of 19. Fascination with computing led him to neurobiology. "The brain is a three-dimensional mass of densely wired tissue," he says. "It's kind of the ultimate computer." He landed at Stanford, where he got his doctorate in 2005, aged 26. There he created an ingenious new technology for analyzing and even controlling any neural circuit, including those in the cerebral cortex--important in sensation, action, thought, emotion, memory. In the science of the cortex, perhaps the toughest problem is to determine how neurons interact with their near neighbors. The cortex has some 20 billion neurons, which have many different functions. For years, neuro-biologists have known various ways to measure the outputs of individual neurons when they fire. Yet no method had been found to control inputs, to find and deliberately activate cells of one particular type. Boyden's technology--an elegant, tricky piece of genetic engineering-- gives scientists exactly that. Boyden had thus invented a precise, reliable neural switching system operating at thousandths of a second--the speed at which neurons naturally interact. He has since added genetic elements that control just which type of neuron makes the new protein. Introduced into, say, a mouse's brain, the protein could highlight individual types of neurons and allow researchers to study their functions. One possible use, Boyden says, is to analyze the neural circuits that perform particular types of "computation," such as decision-making. The quest to determine how precise neural activity patterns mediate computation, behavior, and pathology would be greatly aided by a set of tools for reliably activating and inactivating genetically targeted neurons, in a temporally precise and rapidly reversible fashion. Having earlier adapted a light-activated cation channel, 1channelrhodopsin-2 (ChR2), for allowing neurons to be stimulated by blue light, we searched for a complementary tool that would enable optical neuronal inhibition, driven by light of a second color. Here we report that targeting the 1codon-optimized form of the light-driven chloride pump halorhodopsin from the archaebacterium Natronomas pharaonis (hereafter abbreviated Halo) to genetically-specified neurons enables them to be silenced reliably, and reversibly, by millisecond-timescale pulses of yellow light. We show that trains of yellow and blue light pulses can drive high-fidelity sequences of hyperpolarizations and depolarizations in neurons simultaneously expressing yellow light-driven Halo and blue light-driven ChR2, allowing for the first time manipulations of neural synchrony without perturbation of other parameters such as spiking rates. The Halo/ChR2 system thus constitutes a powerful toolbox for multichannel photoinhibition and photostimulation of virally or transgenically targeted neural circuits without need for exogenous chemicals, enabling systematic analysis and engineering of the brain, and quantitative bioengineering of excitable cells. In contrast, optical activation via ChR2 offers neural excitation with temporal resolution on the order of 1 millisecond; the ability to optically silence neurons on the same timescale, and especially to exert bidirectional control of membrane voltage with two colors of light, would clearly be of enormous benefit both as a basic science tool and as a novel bioengineering building-block. http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchArticle.action?articleURI=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0000299#pone-0000299-g003 Multiple-Color Optical Activation, Silencing, and Desynchronization of Neural Activity, with Single-Spike Temporal Resolution Makes one wonder what they could do with even more Multiple Colors. Makes one wonder if maybe they have. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=pubmed&cmd=link&LinkName=pubmed_pmc_refs&from_uid=17375185 Because even within colors is a form of a frequency. http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=2493485&tool=pmcentrez&rendertype=abstract Learning to Recognize Visual Objects With Microstimulation in Inferior Temporal Cortex Our results add the evidence that the differential activity in IT during visual association learning is sufficient for establishing new associations. The results suggest that experimentally manipulated activity patterns within IT can be effectively combined with ongoing visually induced activity during the formation of new associations. The malleability of object representations by experience is essential for adaptive behavior. It has been hypothesized that neurons in inferior temporal cortex (IT) in monkeys are pivotal in visual association learning, evidenced by experiments revealing changes in neural selectivity following visual learning, as well as by lesion studies, wherein functional inactivation of IT impairs learning. New association indicates writing of new behavior. God knows what else they are learning to recognize. Peace On Jul 28, 10:11 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > Optical switching of prepared cells is nothing digital. Another misuse > of the term. > Most (if not all ) of more complex trials involve the subject being in > an MRI scanner for evaluation of effects on brain regions and done > with volunteers. No one is 'writing' to brains. > Switching one prepared cell in a worm etc. is not quite mind control. > Yes, It's a worrying trait in research, with abuse possible -but not > in everyday usage any more than Hum needs to be Morse code to remain a > nusiance. > Just because something could happen doesn't mean it has already - or > is going to soon. > > On Jul 27, 10:23 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Trev Our brain process's data. It's as simple as that.THAT IS > > VERIFIABLE > > The truth is most of us are intuitely aware of the sound, BUT WE DO > > NOT CONSCIOUSLY know without a shadow of a doubt which of our senses > > is doing the perceiving. We do not know exactly which of our brain > > neurotransmitters is being stimulated. The truth is our brains > > cannot perceive anything without their being some form of a stimuli > > outside the body that our brains recognize of a an action that > > generates any one or more of our sensory modalilty of sensations. > > (chain reactions) > > > Sensory Modality (sense organs) - a type of physical phenomenon that > > can be sensed, such as temperature and sound > > > Physiology - Any of the various types of sensation,, the sensory > > modalities will be visual, auditory, tactile, olfactory, gustatory, > > kinesthetic, etc. > > > In Cognitive Neuroscience - a condition in which the stimulation of > > one sensory modality gives rise to an experience in another modality. > > > Modality (semiotics) - the types of sign and the extent to which any > > set of signs is real or unreal. Refers to a certain type of > > information and/or the representation > > > SENSORY MODALITIES - Those are our brains interfaces that process data > > and that includes ANY TYPE OF MACHINE CODE THAT USES A COMMON > > LANGUAGE OF ALPHA NUMERIC CHARACTERS FROM SIMPLE REPRESENTATONS TO > > COMPLEX REPRESENTATIONS. > > > Interface - The noun interface has been around since the 1880s, > > meaning “a surface forming a common boundary, as between bodies or > > regions.” > > > Every interface implies a structure. Electrical signals are made up of > > voltage levels, frequencies and duration. > > Every interface implies a function, electronic signals activate > > functions; > > > Software interfaces (programming interfaces) are the languages, codes > > and messages that programs use to communicate > > > No matter what they're called, interfaces boil down to a format and > > language that defines the services one system is capable of delivering > > to another. > > > MACHINE CODE IS NOT ONLY FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMMING. > > Language and grammer is machine code > > Math is machine code > > Representations of pictures, signs, symbols is machine code > > Braille is machine code. > > Morse code is machine code > > Vibrational energy is machine code > > Pulsed energy is machine code > > SOUND CAN BE MADE TO BE AN INTERFACE THAT IS CAPABLE OF DELIVERING A > > FORMAT OF A LANGUAGE THAT OUR SENSORY MODALITIES > > ACCEPT > > > Frequency and duration > > > You might want to take a deeper look into the advancing technology of > > COGNITIVE NEUROSCIENCE. That part of science has been demonstrating > > for quite a long time they have the knowledge of how to interface with > > our brain waves. > > > If you want demonstrations, all you got to do is follow the money > > trail for your > > knowledge. > > > And as you have said on many numerous occasions, technology wise, > > they > > are 10-20 years advanced on a multitude of science that they release > > to us, > > the public. > > > HERE IS A NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE THAT IS TELLING US HOW THEY > > ARE DEMONSTRATING THE DIGITAL NATURE OF BRAIN WAVES, OPTICAL > > EXCITATION INTERFACING WITH THE BRAINS FUNCTIONS AND ABILITY TO > > MIMIC THE ELECTRICAL CHATTERINGS OF OUR BRAINS. > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/14/science/14brai.html? > > > What is new here is that for the first time, researchers can perturb > > specific neuron types using light, Dr. Deisseroth said. > > > "We can start to sort of speak the language of the brain using > > optical excitation," Dr. Deisseroth said. The brain's > > functions "arise from the orchestrated participation of all the > > different cell types, like in a symphony," he said. > > > One of the newest, fastest strategies co-opts a photosensitive > > protein called channelrhodopsin- 2 from pond scum to allow precise > > laser control of the altered cells on a millisecond timescale. That > > speed mimics the natural electrical chatterings of the brain, said > > Dr. Karl Deisseroth, an assistant professor of bioengineering at > > Stanford. > > > Laser stimulation can serve as a musical conductor, manipulating > > the various kinds of neurons in the brain to reveal which important > > roles they play. > > This light-switch technology promises to accelerate scientists' > > efforts in mapping which clusters of the brain's 100 billion neurons > > warble to each other when a person, for example, recalls a memory or > > learns a skill. > > ------------------------------------- > > No matter what they're called, interfaces boil down to a format and > > language that defines the services one system is capable of delivering > > to another. > > > On Jul 25, 9:39 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I think you're pushing the vernacular a bit far out here, Dee. > > > Machine code is for computer type interfaces and totally digital. > > > No one has yet demonstrated the digital nature of brain waves to my > > > knowledge! > > > The whole hum thing seems to trigger analogue reactions, in fact! > > > Only the on/off nature of hum could be remotely construed as digital > > > and 'there, not there' is just a switching state- not info or control, > > > unless there is an actual machine in the brain waiting to receive it > > > with pre-programmed parameters.[Similar to low bandwidth sub comms] > > > Where has that been shown in the human brain -or alternatively > > > implants discovered that are verifiable? > > > > On Jul 23, 8:36 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Trev Our brains machine code is language/grammer, thinking in > > > > pictures and math and sound. If they know the machine code of the > > > > brain chatterings, then they know > > > > it's common language. Transmission comes in many forms. One of them > > > > could > > > > be the noise we suffer of the Hum. > > > > > On Jul 22, 2:45 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Dee, I appreciate your strength of conviction , but I'm not wrong. > > > > > You take me too literally. > > > > > Communication can take many forms, but it still needs a 'common > > > > > language'. > > > > > Let's say a sender and receiver then.OK? > > > > > My gut feeling about malign control is all it can be -a sense of how > > > > > it fits into the current diaspora.[Nice word]. > > > > > If you know more , then you must increase your ability to transmit > > > > > this info/perspective across and catch the interest of many > > > > > disinterested people-most of whom can't even be bothered to vote, > > > > > remember, let alone worry too much about their fellow citizens, or a > > > > > common future overmuch! > > > > > Sad to say- but this is also a current 'truth' - and it measures > > > > > against small bands of dissidents or sufferers that comprise > > > > > opposition to the status quo. > > > > > > I agree that infra sound technology misused is highly malign, but I do > > > > > have a hope , apart from 'cock-up' pulling it down, after so many > > > > > years of mis-application, that there is a higher balance in the > > > > > universe that has given strengths to those who oppose evil. > > > > > This would be also endemic in our genetic makeup and Yes!, may even > > > > > result in Hum sensitivity. > > > > > > The 'language' for such topic discourse is also very difficult to > > > > > access, but I hope you get my drift. > > > > > > On Jul 22, 7:05 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Trev Your wrong. Language does not rely on both a speaker and a > > > > > > hearer. Language can be written like a deaf person reads sign > > > > > > language. Our brains understand pictures as well as math. Language/ > > > > > > grammer is becoming known as an innate (inbred) behavior in our DNA > > > > > > and not a learned behavior. This noise we hear could very well be > > > > > > speaking > > > > > > to our brains subliminal, in this reality that we all are living. I > > > > > > don't think it would take > > > > > > as much TO FORCE A MALIGN INFLUENCE. That's why they call it > > > > > > subliminal perhaps. > > > > > > > On Jul 21, 2:23 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Language relies on both speaker and hearer believing in the same > > > > > > > reality. > > > > > > > This is how conjurors work their magic by taking control of the > > > > > > > interaction - but there is NO dialogue as such.. > > > > > > > Suspended disbelief and it is not far from fuzzy logic imo. > > > > > > > Fuzzy logic is needed where the constaints are too far out of > > > > > > > kilter > > > > > > > with known ideas but some really new concepts are needed. > > > > > > > I think that, Dee is where your vision operates and why I persist > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > struggle with what you see. > > > > > > > I know what it's like when I've seen something others don't- the > > > > > > > dialogue is non existent ,in truth, and a lonely path it can be > > > > > > > too. > > > > > > > As already said, I was technically 'trained' but no educated > > > > > > > enough to > > > > > > > really put my ideas into an acceptable framework. When I came to > > > > > > > work > > > > > > > in research finally, with multiple PhDs, I found them great > > > > > > > intellectually, but most of their eyes glazed when moving away > > > > > > > from a > > > > > > > comfort zone of pre- assuptions and formal > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hum-sufferers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
