Ted,

No mate, you put your own words in your own mouth.

     Ron: I hate scheduled Defrags

     Scott: I agree wholeheartedly

     Ted: I don't. It's a tool. Use it when necessary.

So you agree with scheduled defrags, but only when necessary.


     Ted: (Later) Don't do unnatural acts just to avoid it.

Who mentioned unnatural acts? Not me.


     Ted: (much later) What I said was that the index reduces the impact


Reduced impact is still impact. Defragging to avoid space problems is like
walking everywhere in a zig zag pattern in case someone decides to shoot at
you. Zig Zaggers will tell you they haven't been shot so it must work. 

I'll take primary space reduced to zero, followed by secondary extents
reduced to fit free space extents, followed by an advol, followed by
increasing the secondary space request after 16 extents, followed by more
secondary space reduction, followed by more addvol, etc etc etc over a hope
and pray defrag any day.

Ron


Ron

> -----Original Message-----
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> Ted MacNEIL
> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 5:02 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] Defrag
> 
> >Did you miss the word "scheduled."
> 
> No, I didn't.
> 
> >Your having a different conversation.
> 
> What you missed, or so it seems, is frag index.
> 
> Besides, I can't do test during non-test times and prod during non-prod
times
> without scheduling.
> 
> What I said was that the index reduces the impact.
> 
> I never said ad hoc.
> Or, is somebody putting words in my mouth, again?
> -
> Too busy driving to stop for gas!
> 
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