Steve,

Why not just allocate a bigger VTOC. The argument is that the regular
shuffling of thousands of CYls into contiguous extents to save one or two
cyls on a VTOC is valuable exercise.

I don't see it. I would give the Storage Admin help and guidance on sizing a
VTOC, and how to reallocate a larger one.

Ron

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> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 12:33 PM
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> Subject: Re: Defrag
> 
> ----------------------------------<snip>--------------------------------
> ------
> AFAIK, you are limited to 16 extents on a volume (NON-VSAM, PDS, DAM,
> etc.). If you are allowed (or can) do multi-volume, then yes, you get 16
> 
> [max] per volume for 59 volumes.
> 
> Reclaiming space in the VTOC: If I can get all my space consolidated to
> just the DSCB #1, then all the other DSCBs (model 3s) become available,
> giving space for more allocations in the VTOC. If I remember correctly,
> there can be up to 4 Model 3 DSCBs to get you to 16 extents (for a data
> set) -- (non-VSAM, PDS, DAM, PS, etc.). Otherwise, once you have used up
> 
> all the DSCBs in the VTOC, you can't allocate anything more, or even get
> 
> a secondary extent on that volume. So defragging does recover space for
> a VTOC.
> --------------------------------<unsnip>--------------------------------
> ------
> I can't speak for Extended Format, but for non-Extended Format datasets,
> 
> you can only have one FORMAT-3 DSCB per dataset (Except for the special
> case of ISAM, now long dead.)
> 
> Rick
> <SNIP>
> 
> Based on the doc, if an F1DSCB can only have 3 extents, and an F4DSCB
> can only have 4 extents, but a simple PS data set is limited to 16
> Extents on a volume, then we have a problem.
> 
> It has been 14+ years since I've had to do DSCB handling (OBS/ACS WYLBUR
> would try to get a PDS to a single extent...). So I don't recall the
> actual layouts and only went by what IBM's doc says. And I could very
> well have misread or misinterpreted DFP/DFSMS's verbiage.
> 
> But the point was recovering space in a VTOC...
> 
> Regards,
> Steve Thompson
> 
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