Hey Kurt (and Marna),

In order to help customers get to the zOSMF way of doing it, IBM could do a 
quick round of calls with its customers to understand how shops most commonly 
do it currently.
Then, IBM could do multi-part webinars or a bunch of IBM TechDocs to address 
the switching-over concerns and points to note.
Leaving very little to individual customer experimentation, with support like 
mentioned above, switching to the zOSMF way should be easier.

- KB

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On Thursday, October 28th, 2021 at 6:44 PM, Kurt J. Quackenbush 
<ku...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> > I have one set of installation volumes (TGT125, ZFS225 and DLBV25)
> >
> > specific to the release. TGT125 will NEVER get IPL'd, I clone from
> >
> > there to everywhere. All 'extranous' data sets (CPAC, the SMP
> >
> > environment) goes SMS and stays on my sandbox. I also don't IPL the
> >
> > CPAC system that comes with the serverpac. Everything on DLBv25 and
> >
> > TGT125 is uncataloged. Only the ZFSs are cataloged under the HLQ
> >
> > INST25. They, too, get cloned to the actual sysres and renamed during
>
> cloning.
>
> > After reading your posts, I am really glad I used the serverpac,
> >
> > especially with zOSMF insisting that everything is done exactly as
> >
> > zOSMF defines as 'the right way'. It sounds like a nightmare to me
> >
> > to keep my working process using z/OSMF.
>
> Even if you personally will never install z/OS using z/OSMF, I want to
>
> address some of your concerns for others that may read this thread.
>
> Does z/OSMF have a different look and feel than CustomPac ServerPac? Yes.
>
> However, z/OSMF can certainly install as you've described here: you can
>
> specify your three installation volumes for the target and distribution
>
> libraries, you can let SMS manage the CPAC and SMP/E data sets, your
>
> targets and dlibs can be uncataloged, the zFSs can be cataloged with HLQ
>
> INST25. And you don't have to IPL the installed system.
>
> If anyone is confused how to tell z/OSMF about your unique installation
>
> desires, let me know. I bet in most cases, like those described above,
>
> there's a way to make it happen. I'm here to help.
>
> Kurt Quackenbush -- IBM, z/OS SMP/E and z/OSMF Software Management
>
> Chuck Norris never uses CHECK when he applies PTFs.
>
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