Not sure I understand why you do that, but you have that option IF you DON'T do a SYSTEM UPGRADE and do a REPLACE, which builds all new things.
All I want to do is SWAP my 2 RES volumes, which I have done for 30+ years, Recatalog whats new to the release I am installing and IPL. Like I said, I don't ever want to build a new MCAT, just to perform an upgrade, unless there is a really good reason. Ms Terri E Shaffer Senior Systems Engineer, z/OS Support: ACIWorldwide - Telecommuter H(412-766-2697) C(412-519-2592) terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Edgington, Jerry Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:55 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues External Email Terri, There are ways to leave your Master Catalog alone, and still be able to upgrade z/OS. I install new z/OS either with ServerPac or now z/OSMF workflows, to its own "master" catalog, with ALIAS pointer of something like ZOS25. Then build runtime datasets from the "ServerPac" datasets, upgrading without changing the z/OS datasets in the Master Catalog, using indirect cataloging. Jerry Edgington | Sr.Technical Analyst IT Technical Operations Enterprise Systems 400 Broadway | Cincinnati, Ohio 45202 513.629.1826 direct 513.629.1787 fax WesternSouthern.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Shaffer, Terri Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:44 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues This message was sent from an external source outside of Western & Southern's network. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the contents are safe. ________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Sorry Kurt, Absolutely understand what you said, but that's dumb. I haven't created a NEW Master Catalog in 20 years, because why would I want to have to RECAT all my PAGE, SMF, USERCATs, NON-VSAM, ETC datasets?? When just adding an SSA to SYS1 gets away from any conflicts, and still gets in the current master catalog, Then the renames all work, which really only does the physical names on DASD. Then Recatalogs indirectly and NEW datasets and I am done. Yuck, but okay I will just modify all my datasets again in z/OS 2.6, but will use my current instance as a Model to keep volume placements, But even this is ugly, because my volsers change... Currently ZA2511 and SMPD25, will go to ZA2611 and SMPD26 in z/OS 2.6, so I have mass change things anyhow. I really liked the SERVERPAC dialogs even more now, ONE Panel to redefine my Physicals and all the logicals get placed magically with 0 work!! Ms Terri E Shaffer Senior Systems Engineer, z/OS Support: ACIWorldwide - Telecommuter H(412-766-2697) C(412-519-2592) terri.shaf...@aciworldwide.com -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU> On Behalf Of Kurt J. Quackenbush Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2021 12:14 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Serverpac installs January 2022 and beyond - Issues External Email > Great information Kurt, thanks, but need a clarification on one thing. > > >>That's great! You would choose any of these software instances as > your model when installing z/OS next. You can also experiment with > other Software >>Management actions on those defined software > instances. For example, on the Software Instances page try the View > -> Data Sets action. > >>Or any of the Maintenance Report actions. > > So does this mean I will always have to change every dataset again? > To add my SYS1SSA, CPACSSA and SMPSSA? Because the instances all point > to the real names. If so you lost me again, because that was pain > staking to change 1200 datasets, even with filtering. Your installed z/OS 2.5 now has your desired data set names. You defined a software instance that describes your installed z/OS 2.5. Therefore, if you select that software instance as your model when you install z/OS next, as much as possible z/OSMF will initialize the configuration with the data set names from your installed z/OS 2.5. You then will not have to modify data set names for 1200 data sets, however you will have to modify names for any new data sets in z/OS next and those which are not SMP/E managed, like the CPAC data sets. But those are much fewer. > At least the SERVERPAC just prefixed everything with you SSA HLQ's. z/OSMF will also prefix data sets with a temporary catalog alias (SSA) if that's what you want. It does this when you tell z/OSMF you want to create a new master catalog. 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