We use SpamCop as well on our Declude system and usually see pretty
good information from it.

However, we had an e-mail from them yesterday giving us information
about a "Spamvertised website".

>From what we can tell from this confusing message they sent to us is
that *someone* (so far, it is someone who uses someone else's email
service ... NOT OURS) *INCLUDED* a URL in their e-mail which they must
have sent to some people (not sure who or if a list or what)... and in
this e-mail that this person sent, they included the URL address for
one of our client's web sites.

So, they track that back to us as being the host...and we try and go
through it figuring out if it's us or our customer or what the heck is
happening.

Here's the wording regarding this - it's just an excerpt:
"This report is concerning a web site
(http://www.WEBSITEANONYMOUSNOTREAL.COM ) mentioned in the body of an
unwanted email. "

So, this does give me some concern regarding the SpamCop service -
this wasted our time, our client's time... and we *CAN'T* control what
people write in their OWN PERSONAL e-mails ...

Now, we can control how e-mail is sent through our servers etc...
which we try and protect.

Anyway, this could get a bit ridiculous if we have a ton of inquiries
from services like SpamCop that puts this information in their
database....  Seems like it could go over the edge.

-jlf


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>>: ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>: From: "discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>: Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>: Date:  Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:03:00 -0500
>>:
>>: >I have run Imail for a few years, we are very anti-spam.  
d> Stupid
>>: >spamcop - who cannot send an email to the abuse of the domain -
>>: >has us listed as a spammer.
>>: >
>>: >They have 3 complaints against us.  2 are because they took the
>>: >submitters email (a user of ours) as the sender.  WHen I 
d> notified
>>: >them of the problem, they never corrected it.  Now I get one
>>: >tonight - someone using an account as a drop box, we do not 
d> allow
>>: >any smtp relaying including auth, outside of our ipblock.  It 
d> is
>>: >set up right it works - their report says 7 relayclosed.  What 
d> are
>>: >they talking about ?  It was never open.
>>: >
>>: >So what is up with these idiots?  I don't see them listed in 
d> our
>>: >declude list of checks, does anyone use them?  From my 
d> expierence,
>>: >I cannot ever think of using them.
>>: >
>>: >THey seem like a bunch of kids playing.  Why wouldn't you send 
d> the
>>: >email to the abuse of the offending domain?  that is just 
d> stupid.
>>: >who checks the whois record email? (I happened to tonight so I
>>: >caught it, but a whois email is nothing but a spam catcher)
>>: >
>>: >So since my first request to fix the problem fell on deaf ears,
>>: >any idea how to deal with these idiots?  If people really are
>>: >using their list, them I am really going to be pissed.
>>: >
>>: >Chet


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