Now who's being unprofessional? How about sticking to the topic instead of just being insulting? Then maybe you'll appreciate the helpful responses from those who generously donate their time to help the entire community.
Darin. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2004 12:48 AM Subject: RE: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] IMAIL services not restarting Sandie So you represent yourself as a "professional" in some limited areas, that IS amazing. Your approaches are full of assumptions of others which you know nothing about. Shows a definate shallow, classless and grade school approach which will neither help you in acquiring any new business nor maintain your existing customers. I do feel sorry for anyone who would actually pay you for any services. Actually we outsource only a small portion of our email systems. About 100,000 user base to one of the so called "larger" service companies who provide Imail service and have been doing so for many years. Seems these Windows experts can't keep the system running reliably at all. We are looking to either move Imail in house and let our mail division manage it or throw out the product entirely for something more reliable. All these so called Imail experts have not been able support the services they are well paid for. This forum is touted by Ipswitch as one of the benefits its user base has to resolve issues. If people like you represent it and have such a difficult time addressing simplistic issues and communicating with people it bodes poorly for anything difficult ever asked and is certainly no benefit to the Imail community. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sanford Whiteman Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2004 8:17 PM To: Mike Subject: Re[4]: [IMail Forum] IMAIL services not restarting > Since you obviously live in a windows only world and never have > encountered large scale systems and operations outside of it... Ha! ROFLOL. Just because you're Windows-newbie doesn't mean others are Windows-only. When in newsgroups for Windows products, one responds appropriately with Windows rationales and comparisons. Anything else is just needless anti-Windows sentiment. > ...try looking once at how most larger companies arrange staff and > delegate authority and privileges to various groups so they don't > step all over each other. If you don't know how to delegate/restrict service-start permissions to specific users in Windows, I don't know where you come off claiming "enterprise" Windows support experience. And, of course, we do work for companies at least as large as yours (among the top 25 on the planet, so surely this is so). Furthermore, even just restricting your options to the IMail HTTP GUI, if you must have one IMail administrator who can, say, only restart POP3D and one IMail administrator who can only restart SMTPD...if you you really think that managing sub-sub-delegated service-restart permissions under the _already_ sub-delegated "people who can restart only IMail services" umbrella is the best use of resources...and if you anticipate that much downtime in the first place, I worry about how much or whether you're stress-testing these boxes in prep before they enter production. > Buy product B because product A is crap. I think every sales person > in town would love to visit your account and probably has, LOL ! If you think you are qualified to judge IMail based on this non-issue after your brief time--what, 20 minutes?--using it, you're a sucker of a different sort. > Thanks for providing absolutely nothing but pure commentary to a > thread that asked a question. Actually, I responded first with a follow-up question in MID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (which you were unable to respond to because of your lack of familiarity with Windows), then a fully-explained answer in MID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. --Sandy ------------------------------------ Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release / Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange Addresses into IMail Aliases! http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/downloa d/release/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
