Mike (I'll do you the honor of spelling your name correctly), > ...one of the so called "larger" service companies who provide Imail > service and have been doing so for many years. Seems these Windows > experts can't keep the system running reliably at all.
Alas, there are "experts" in every industry who simply know not how unqualified they are for the title (I interview them all the time); and, of course, there those that do know, but deliberately hide that knowledge. I concede that there are probably more Windows sysadmins, by percentage, who overreport their fitness for duty than there are *nix sysadmins doing the same. However, it is a clumsy leap (and made by many others, not just you) to conclude from this informal data that there is no such thing as a Windows expert, or, even more foolish, to conclude that there is no such thing as a product-specific expert for a Windows product. Whatever your OS preference and experience, you can't change the fact that Windows servers do work uninterrupted in many, many large and small companies, and I pity those who've never met someone who's able to make large Windows installs stay up and humming. The same goes for large IMail installations, many of which I am "maintaining" as I write (actually, I never need to touch 'em, that's the idea). If you're out of the loop of people who really know the OS and/or its apps (and your conduct indicates that you wouldn't mind staying that way), you'll never believe it, but that's your loss. > All these so called Imail experts have not been able support the > services they are well paid for. And your point would be that _you_ are getting a bum deal and therefore IMail itself is broken? That you are, for some reason, still paying people who aren't doing their jobs, so _anyone_ who says they're up to the task must not be? And why didn't you mention before the _real_ issues you are having--apparently much, much bigger than "How do I restrict who can restart services in Windows?"--instead of misdirecting people by nitpicking? What are you trying to hide? Your side of this whole debate is ridiculous: you didn't ask your real questions, so why such anger? Asking a non-question is not a good way to "warm up" a group to your real issues. > This forum is touted by Ipswitch as one of the benefits its user > base has to resolve issues. Yes, it is. This list is peopled by product experts, like us, who design and deploy high-performance, highly stable IMail-based systems. If you don't have personal access to people who know the product, insulting those who voluntarily help on this forum (a cursory look at the archives will show you the breadth of contribution from my end) is not going to get you what you need. > If people like you represent it and have such a difficult time > addressing simplistic issues... I'm still laughing from this one--if you can find anything that shows that I do not _fully_ grasp and have not _fully_ explained the nonexistent nature of your so-called "issue," I'll PayPal you 50 bucks. (Then you can pass it on to your "experts.") --Sandy ------------------------------------ Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/download/release/ Defuse Dictionary Attacks: Turn Exchange Addresses into IMail Aliases! http://www.mailmage.com/products/software/freeutils/exchange2aliases/download/release/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
