John Sonnenschein wrote:
> On 6/23/07, Gary Gendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Bottom line is that you can't please everybody if you say things as
>> stupidly as "You must supply WM X because that's the best". That is
>> never the case for all uses in the real world.
>
> Take a poll. A real poll, on OS.o.
>
> If that poll says everyone wants GNOME to be indiana's default, I'll
> gladly shut up about it.
>
I never advocated that one and only one WM be supplied.  I advocated
just the opposite. No poll is needed. Time will tell which WM survives.
Ubuntu installations outnumber Kbuntu installations by a wide majority.
Would you want that Kbuntu be dropped because the majority of users
picked it?  What your poll would ultimately do is reduce choice and make
all future decisions based upon a religious and political camps.
> An executive order from Sun Microsystems that affects a supposedly
> community distro isn't going to cut it in my books. So, are we a
> community distro, or a Sun product, because if we're just yet another
> product from Sun Micro, I think we ought to know that straight from
> the get-go so we don't get our hopes up
Could you please point out any executive order?  I must have missed this
in the flurry of emails on this subject. All I saw was bickering about
which should be THE Indiana WM. This is a separate issue than the other
thread that was bickering of whether it was a Sun project or a community
project.

It saddens me to see what is going on in this mailing list. I was
looking for the banding together to allow OpenSolaris to become
something greater. The real issues aren't which WM, Email, or Browser is
the best. Rather I'd like to see how we are going to address the real
challenges of making it work on current generation machines and meet the
needs of a diverse user base. Instead I keep seeing how it should meet
the tunnel-vision of the few.

If what I'm seeing shows what it means to be a community project, then I
guess I can't be of service and Indiana is no threat to any other OS in
my lifetime. I've been a big part of both successful and unsuccessful
open source projects. You won't see my name listed because I requested
it not to.  I am glad to contribute when I feel that the work is needed
and appreciated, but in such a contentious environment as portrayed
here, I'm not sure I want to even try. After weeks of "discussion" I see
no progress because any time that someone starts an important thread it
quickly degrades into a hissy fit which benefits no one.

Gary


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