Stefan Teleman wrote: > On 6/23/07, Gary Gendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> John Sonnenschein wrote: >> > On 6/23/07, Gary Gendel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> Bottom line is that you can't please everybody if you say things as >> >> stupidly as "You must supply WM X because that's the best". That is >> >> never the case for all uses in the real world. >> > >> > Take a poll. A real poll, on OS.o. >> > >> > If that poll says everyone wants GNOME to be indiana's default, I'll >> > gladly shut up about it. >> > >> I never advocated that one and only one WM be supplied. I advocated >> just the opposite. No poll is needed. Time will tell which WM survives. > > OK, then, if you are opposed to taking a poll -- which would be the > only objective means of determining the community-at-large's view on > this matter -- and you are just willing to present the GNOME decision > as a "community decision", you are free to do so, but don't expect it > to be perceived for more than it is: a decision made by a small number > of individuals with no consideration for the wishes of the community. > > That's fine, as long as we all understand what it really is: anything > but a community-driven decision process. And as long as this state of > affairs persists, the entire process will be subject to suspicion of > unfairness. > Let me try my proposal one more time... For CD based installs, we need to have multiple installer for each of the most popular window managers. For a network or DVD install, you get choose one or more window managers. In my environment I an required to support multiple window managers, so I will either use the DVD, network installers, or the CD and install the other WM packages I need later. The only thing gained by a poll is to determine which one comes first.
Right now I can choose Ubuntu or Kbuntu, or make a selection of window managers in Suse. Neither one has said they don't support Gnome or KDE, so why should we? In this framework, your proposal simply says if we don't choose KDE as the first one out the chute, then it is unfair. I say that the only unfair option would be not supporting a window manager. I think we are basically on the same side, but we view the world from a different perspective. If you take too strong a hard-line position then there is no compromise. If we can't figure out a way to get the community off the dime and past trivial issues as this, then we might as well stop here and all go home. Gary _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
