On 21.12.2007, at 19:38, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
Sounds to me like we should stop accepting this legal BS. Then
they will only be able to pay for a nice little house if they
write understandable stuff or nothing is they are unwilling to
adapt to the demands of their customers.
It is quite impossible to write anything understandable for the
person that refuses to understand. Yes, legal stuff can be
complicated for the outsider - as programming stuff can be
complicated for the outsider. But as program design can be
explained in relatively simple terms, so in many cases can the
legal stuff - of course, in both cases some tiny details might get
omitted, but you'd get the general picture.
Only thing needed for this is willingness to actually listen. I
understand that some here are so averted by the idea of the CLA
itself that they are not willing even to listen what that dreaded
CLA is. I get this, but it would be a hypocrisy to blame it on "not
understandable stuff" if one has no intention to understand
anything at the first place, only to refuse it.
I believe I am really trying to give this all a decently open minded
chance. I also think that I am somewhat capable of reading english
and I even had some exposure to law courses in university. Yet I do
not think that the language is clear in the Apache CLA. So I must
admit I am hesitant to believe anyone that claims to know what the
CLA means without acknowledging that the text indeed is hard to
understand and without getting a reasonably in-depth dissection of
the text.
As such I appreciate your interpretation (as well as David's), but I
take both with a huge grain of salt.
regards,
Lukas
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