Hi, Lorenzo,

>As long as the RIRs are willing to give them enough address space to do so.

>If an ISP requested an IPv6 /10 from ARIN because they wanted to give every 
>customer a /48 and wanted to geocode the customer's subscriber ID into the 
>/48, then ARIN would do well to say, "no, sorry, that doesn't make sense".

> IMO I think it should also state that although it is an IETF RFC, this model 
> is not necessarily a recommended model, and that RIRs are not obliged to 
> accept this type of address allocation as a justification for obtaining 
> larger address blocks than they would normally be able to obtain.

Yes, there is no intension to change ARIN’s policy at all. ARIN should remain 
the current policy of assign IPv6 address block. But the network providers, who 
has already get address block, can choose to use the addresses with certain 
semantics. And no one, including ARIN can stop this. This is just one of the 
many ways providers may utility their addresses.

>Lest someone not realize this, the draft should clearly state that embedding N 
>bits of semantics into IPv6 addresses causes the network to use 2^N times the 
>address space that it normally would.

Yes, we will state the semantics will lower the address utilization ratio in 
the future update. However, it is not necessary as worse as 2^N times. For 
example, it there are 2 bits to separate different use types (say 4 different 
types), it actually only separate use address spaces into four different 
spaces. It does not limit the address space to be 1/4 of original space.

Best regards,

Sheng

From: Lorenzo Colitti [mailto:lore...@google.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 2:48 PM
To: Tim Chown
Cc: Owen DeLong; <v6...@ietf.org>; 
draft-jiang-v6ops-semantic-pre...@tools.ietf.org; ipv6@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Could IPv6 address be more than 
locator?//draft-jiang-v6ops-semantic-prefix-03

On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Tim Chown 
<t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk<mailto:t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk>> wrote:
I agree. That said, an ISP, enterprise or group of organisations can follow 
whatever semantics they wish within their own borders.

As long as the RIRs are willing to give them enough address space to do so.

If an ISP requested an IPv6 /10 from ARIN because they wanted to give every 
customer a /48 and wanted to geocode the customer's subscriber ID into the /48, 
then ARIN would do well to say, "no, sorry, that doesn't make sense".

Lest someone not realize this, the draft should clearly state that embedding N 
bits of semantics into IPv6 addresses causes the network to use 2^N times the 
address space that it normally would.

IMO I think it should also state that although it is an IETF RFC, this model is 
not necessarily a recommended model, and that RIRs are not obliged to accept 
this type of address allocation as a justification for obtaining larger address 
blocks than they would normally be able to obtain.
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