Casper Bang wrote: > ...especially since JavaFX seems to serve mostly to scratch > Sun's own itch but utterly uninteresting to most others.
I am more of a manager than programmer these days (darn it!). I find JavaFX very interesting. However, its still not quite good enough for a serious project due to the lack of layout, tree view etc components. Oh, and a HTML viewer as well (might be there already). I am interested in it for enterprise apps. I know these are coming, but not here yet. I see JavaFX likely to survive due to the range of platforms it can be used on (e.g. mobile, blue ray etc). I really like the ability to glue existing Java libraries we have directly in with the UI (not possible with Flash). AJAX with JavaScript hacking for cross browser development is the best we have today, but is yucky. When you dig deeper it feels like the toolkits around help a lot, but you still waste a lot of time eliminating the last cross browser compatibility problems. The other thing I have not looked into deeply yet is authentication support. E.g. Authentication infrastructures using Kerberos, NTML, CAS, SAML, SPNEGO or whatever else the customer dictates is required by their environment. My understanding with Flash the way you have to do this is get the flash app to talk back to the web browser. So does that mean if you tear a JavaFX app out of a web browser and drop it on the desktop it can no longer hook into authentication infrastructures? Authentication is a pain. I would rather keep this isolated and easy to change in apps that are built. My utopia is two JVMs (one on client, one on server) talking over an authenticated, secure connection, sending async messages to each other with an Actor based (multi-threaded) infrastructure. Its getting closer (Scala for Actors, JavaFX almost ready for UI, not sure about state of authentication), but its not quite here yet. > So I would > not be surprised if we'll see a little bit of the same trend as with > current Sun hardware customers fleeing to IBM. > Speaking purely for myself, we buy Sun hardware due to value for money, decent hardware, good hardware support, and because dealing with one vendor is easier than dealing with several. We have zero plans to suddenly move to IBM hardware. It would be a big change to move vendors. Alan --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javaposse@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
