Excellent episode as always :) 1/ At some point Joe and also Dick if I'm not mistaken say that Google shouldn't say that the law suit is against Open Source and that saying so is purely a PR move. But since Android is based on the Apache Harmony Project, don't you think it *is* fair to say that therefore, attacking Android is also attacking Apache Harmony? (And thus, "the Open Source community"?) IANAL but it seems that at least some of the patents they claim concern the 'Harmony' part of Android - and so, if they win the law suit, what does it mean for Harmony?
2/ At some point it was said that the Apache Harmony Project passed the SE TCK (that it is certified Java SE), but not the ME TCK because of the Field of Use restriction. But if I understand correctly (feel free to correct me) Harmony didn't pass the Java SE 5 TCK (cf: http://www.apache.org/jcp/sunopenletterfaq.html) 3/ At some point it was said that what Google did was no different from what Microsoft did (re. the 1997 Sun vs Microsoft case). But this *was* different, the 1997 lawsuit was about "trademark infringement, false advertising, breach of contract, unfair competition, interference with prospective economic advantage, and inducing breach of contract". Basically Microsoft called their version of Java "Java" and they didn't have the right to do so (by contract). But - and I think Dick knows this all too well ;) - Google made sure to be very careful to not call their version "Java". And so all they could find was silly (imho) patents claims (actually this case is also a Copyright one but it seems we don't know much details about this part...) Just my two euro-cents ;) BoD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "The Java Posse" group. To post to this group, send email to javapo...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to javaposse+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/javaposse?hl=en.
