O k.  you have  won on the firstp oint. What i said  badly--of course-- was
the  Netscape users  had  problems "with JAWs  going crazy"   just as
Outlook  express users using virtual cursor  had   similar problmes.  those
problems  occurred when deleting messages in a long list of messages in
either program and involved one huge loss of focus problem. In my case,  I
could avoid said massive problems by tryping to keep the virtual cursor
turned "off".  but to return to my point means that I and others miss out on
all those nice benefits ofthe  virtual cursor--which can  comei n handy.  So
we face a rotten choice.
We can (1)   have a  nice stable experience using Outlook Express without
losing our work when  system crashes when JAWS  misreads  multiple subject
lines (JAWS  going crazy)   or (2)   never  use the virtual cursor--even
when such usage would help us out.  so  if we get a "whim"  or  "on the fly"
wish to suddenly  make use of the virtual cursor--"we made our choice ahead
of time when **we turned it off in config Manager.
So  that means we lose out on both accounts.
That is why a  toggle switch would let me cruise through the e-mail messages
without having something in the m s a a or in JAWS  lock my system or
misread or double read subject lines--and then-- "when I want to--I would
have the freedom to choose to use the virtual  cursor.  In the current
circumstance, since "having JAWS go crazy"  and misread those subject lines
is such a horrible experience--I am forced to have my choice taken away from
me---I must "go  without" the virtual cursor and its  benefits.
That is  the choice I face.
Sir,  your comments are well taken and  always brilliant.

----- Original Message -----
From: Kelly Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 4:15 PM
Subject: Re: no more top and bottom of window message?


> What the heck are you talking about that the virtual cursor comes on in
> Netscape.  That comes about to as close to an impossibility as I've heard
> in a while.  Netscape has no support for the technology used to make the
> Virtual PC cursor work so it will never be on in that program.  Hitting
> insert-z if Netscape is running will announce things like it is being
> toggled but you can press the PC cursor as often as you like in Netscape
> and it will likely never say Virtual PC cursor.
>
> Until or if HJ has a better idea on this, I'd strongly suggest entering
the
> config manager for the programs where you are unhappy with current
> behavior.  Turn the Virtual PC Cursor off there and turn it on only when
> you want to use it with Insert-z.
>
> I say this not to dismiss what you are asking for.  But to give solutions
> today to what you seem to be saying is a major problem for you.
>
> A good script writer, of which I don't lay claim to be, could probably
> create a script to store the Virtual PC cursor setting in a variable and
> have that variable checked when an application was alt-tabbed into and out
> of and honor the setting.  This would work similar to what HJ already does
> when you first launch an application and hear the introductory messages
but
> as you switch in and out of the program don't hear them repeated.  I tried
> to create such a script but my ability to express in words what should
> happen is a bit better than my ability to use the script features to their
> fullest advantage at this time.
>
>
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