[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <<<That's why I like the NJC so much. The only thing that bothers me is all of the political/war discussions. There seems to be about 8 or 9 people who are consumed with these debates, but it's important to them. I use the delete key. I like when people post about new or even old artists. I like when people talk about their lives, their pets, their children, their encounters, and yes even circumcision. They may be banal posts to some, but they are light and usually quite amusing. I love it when everyone wishes someone a happy birthday, and they post it to the list. People feel special for that one day when they see that others have wished them a HB publicly. The same when a lister's loved one dies. When I see these public posts of sympathy, it makes me feel like I'm part of a loving and caring community. >>>
Jimmy, I love what you said so Im picking up some of the threads of your words in agreement and support. So many have offered up wonderful thoughts and ideas.... so here is some of what I feel .... Just like you, I love the NJC part of the list which I was a part of for the three years, jumping over to Joni only in the most recent weeks. More on that later. Why do I love being here? A myriad of reasons. Ive learned so much .. not only about Joni herself, Ive lived into what it means to be a part of a real community comprised of intelligent, funny, warm, sexy, sassy, sweet people from all over the world. Ive made life long friends. Ive found the love of my life...and trust me when I say, I did not come looking for that when I joined in the chorus of all things Joni. There is something to be said for being at the right place at the right time though. ;-) I sit back and listen to the voices on this list and this is part of what Ive heard and seen. Ive seen the baring of souls , expressions of love, demonstrations of courage, passion, compassion, fire, fireworks, heat, humility, humour, caring and sharing of personal lives ... I love that Ive been stretched in ways that have made me sit up and think and think some more. within our community you can find the most generous, loving, caring people on our planet. I have grown along with this community and have gained so much by being here. Much, much more than I ever dreamed possible. When the trickles of political posts turned into streams and then rivers and then tempests, I decided that instead of drowning, I had to take a rest. For me. Nothing personal, I needed a break. I respect the fact that some people need to 'talk politics' here, with a view to sharing their ideas and opinions with people they have come to know and respect. (who am I to say what should or should not be discussed when my feelings and experiences have come to light on more than one occasion). I dont believe that we need censorship..I do believe that a little self moderation is a good idea. If you feel so passionate about a discussion and it ends up rising up between one or two or three people..then as someone suggested, how about taking it off list? I even wrote to some people off list that I was going to try Joni only because I didnt want to miss out on something important within the scope of the NJC list which I was no longer getting..I didnt want to make a big deal out of that.. and I certainly dont like being the centre of attention..Id much rather do things in 'a silent way'. And sometimes I cant be silent. And sometimes Ive learned that I need to just sit still and breathe and wait out the rising of adrenalin that has in the past made me vent a little this or that when I probably should have held off. again, what I see in your writing, all of you, is passion and caring and so much more. I understand. I do. When you feel so strongly, so moved, and even angry, sometimes you cannot help but share it with the people you have grown to love and trust. there are as many reasons as to why people are 'here' as there are members. The love and caring and friendships and every kind of relationship under the sun can be found here and they are real. how many places in your life do you have a sense of community? think about it? this IS the best internet list because WE... all of us.. you , me .. every single one of us has had something to do with that. yes things have changed... as they say, that's the one of the things we can count on in this life... change. Change is a good thing, change means flexibility, fluidity. I dont have the answer(s) as to how to 'fix' the list. I think it is wonderful that many have stepped forward to express how much the list means to them. I know that some of us have made this space a part of our lives. Nothing wrong with that. Had I not been here in the first place....hell, Id still be in Canada ;-) seriously... Ive met the most wonderful friends who I consider my family. I extend my compassion to all of you who are struggling with the state of the world today. These are troubled times indeed. So sad. And yet, I continue to shine my light across this world and send out deep feelings of peace and hope that this may make a difference in some small way. in closing, I will offer up two songs that played over and over in my head as I was trying to figure out what to say in response to Les' question 1. try a little tenderness and 2. show a little r-e-s-p-e-c-t sending you all tonnes of love and hope for peace on the inside as well as on the outside. Mags. You open my heart, you do. Yes you do. - JM Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more