Do you want to tell us that you understand the motives of the suicide bombersd or that you think suicide bombing contributes to the liberation of Palestine? I too understand their motives and feelings, but this is not the issue for Marxists (or rather this is not the main issue). We have to think about what we would do under the privailing circumstances there if we had any power to do something conretely. Is our strategy based on the working class' long term interests, is it based on splitting the jewish working class from Zionism or is it based on the heroism of individuals (from whatever social background) mobilized by bourgeois forces? And finally: do we think that any faction of the bourgeoisie is able to bring the national liberation struggle to a positive end? These are the questions we have to answer. Also: If you say the Palestinian fighters can't attack military personal and the settlers (who are armed too) and therefore have to attack people going to a disco this means the Palestinians are too weak to wage armed struggle. A.Holberg
PS. Israel is n o t a fascist country (Sharon may personally be one, but this is a diferent affair). Israel behaves like colonialist did and do (see e.g. the French in Algeria or Syria) Macdonald Stainsby schrieb: > Jared, what the fuck kind of defence and/or military strategy do you actually > propose for these people? I've known you a long time (in the net way), so let > me > comradely be blunt: > > Condemning suicide bombers at the point we are currently at- a wholesale > genocide, ethnic cleansing of the worst sort ever (in the 20th cent), fascism > called democracy in Israel, etc etc... people have no water, no guns (okay, > they > have pea shooters), not even a forest to duck into and their homes are being > demolished daily while the land is being re-populated by European settlers. > This > is one ofd the most desperate situations I've ever seen- and they are coming > up > against what I would say is the second most repulsive state of the last > century > bar none- and what are we supposed to do? Tell them they have to get a better > strategy. > > To almost anyone else on this subject, I would tell them to fuck off. But I > like > you a lot, so we'll see. I've never disagreed with you more strongly. I find > that those who attack Palestinian resistance have a different idea about > Israeli > Zionism. What's your take on the Israeli state? > > Macdonald > > > > > MY COMMENT: So you are saying you don't think this should be "emphasized"? > > Does this mean that you guys attacked the suicide bombings but just didn't > > make it the major point? > > > _______________________________________________ > Leninist-International mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To change your options or unsubscribe go to: > http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international _______________________________________________ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
