Comrades, this is a very very simple question. To line up Bosnia and Palestine are hilarious, considering that the only media in the world that systematically reduces the number of Israeli murders to "collateral damage" while only showing rubble in Palestine is the American media- even the Europeans have a pretty good idea about what is going on. Bosnia was the precise opposite- massive media ops, hard work put in to write a story that would thereafter write itself...
Israel gets called a "democracy". That's enough to make a sane man cry in laughter.... The accusation of anti-semite is becoming quickly like being called a terrorist now, or a commie in the 50's. It's being used to deliberately tar those who are critical of Israel as "removed from the pale", etc etc. I want to know this: do either Anton or Jared call Israel a colonial settler regime? Is there any form of resistance in historic Palestine that can survive outside of the suicide bombers? Before I tell them they are really bad little Arabs, I'd better have a backup plan for them. Let us notice that the entire point of the Israeli attacks and massacres is simple- to eliminate "threats to security". Every single settler- and in many cases, civilian- is being used as a physical weapon to eliminate the Palestinian people once and for all. Every settler colony attacks the impoverished masses whose land they sit on by day. They know that they need to be ina permanent war with the inhabitants until the day they eleiminate Palestine once and for all- that's why they build every little settlement on the hills. Easier to shoot the ants from on high. Now, the civilians of Israel are putting up with the colonial settler regime only feet from their homes, and allowing it on the basis that "it will provide security". Well, taking out a tank with real weapons is nearly impossible, but attacking the settlers isn't. These settlers are 99% of the time, the most scum bag, racist (and theocratic!!! "God gave me this land, so I must shoot arabs...") people on this planet now. They want nothing less than Eretz Israel and they form midnight militias to shoot the peasants in the lowlands. Killing these people is attacking the very concept of removing the Palestinian people from their own land. The suicide bombers are there, not to help imperialism, but to prove (they hope) to Israel that they will not force the people to accept the Apartheid townships, worse than the Bantustan homelands by far! Secular forces use the suicide bombers now simply because they are something that packs a wallop which can never truly be stopped. Let me put it this way: If you want these people to knock off the suicide bombers, send them anti-aircraft weapons. Until then, stop Israel as best you can. I, nor anyone else on this list, has any real right to demand that these oppressed people come up with a revolutionary resumé we like. Living here, that is the height of arrogance. Hugo Chávez will not be tricked into condemning suicide bombers, since you like to bring him up. Israel is not quite the 51st state- it's something all together on its own- but let us be very clear. Israel, as it is currently legally constituted, must be destroyed. Then we can have a real peace. There will not be a peace where a country allows the kind of extremist psychotics that exists there: the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan called itself an Islamic state, and the state of the Afghan people. They never went so far as to say we are the one and only state of the Muslims, will pay all Muslims to move here.... My use of cusses is not for lack of argument, but rather cold water. Attacks of any sort on the Palestinian people at this time make my blood boil. Should the Warsaw Ghetto strugglers have been constrained by a particular set of morals to the people there? What if they had been able to kill the German elites who stole their homes, their businesses, etc.... would that have been terrorism or resistance? All the condemnation of "terror" smells like fence sitting to me. I condemn the existence of a state which is for one people at the expense of antoher, and that can only exist by making a historic people.... vanish. Again, what is your option for them in fighting the Zionazis? Delivering petitions to the IDF tanks? Macdonald ----- Original Message ----- From: "A.Wosni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [L-I] Another War to Stop: Vermonters at the DC Protest on A20 > Do you want to tell us that you understand the motives of the suicide bombersd > or that you think suicide bombing contributes to the liberation of Palestine? I > too understand their motives and feelings, but this is not the issue for > Marxists (or rather this is not the main issue). We have to think about what we _______________________________________________ Leninist-International mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change your options or unsubscribe go to: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/listinfo/leninist-international
