Frank Reichert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in part:

>> You're both right, but I believe Robert sees the raising of the debt
limit as
>> syptomatic rather than causitive.

>Now, how could THAT be possible?  Reckless, unconstitutional
>spending is the causitive effect for raising the debt limit
>repeatedly. Without the spending, there would be no need to raise
>the debt limit.

That's the SAME THING as saying the raising of the debt limit is
symptomatic rather than causative.
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