On Fri, 3 Dec 2004 15:48:05 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Travis Pahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in part: > > >They both seem fairly authoritarian to me. Arnold sometimes speaks > >about economic freedom but his actions since taking office have shown > >him to be a typical republican. > > Your problem is in not taking the milieu into account. If you were in a > pro-slave state, you'd probably rake over the coals some politician who > campaigned for the maintenance of slavery but with better treatment of > slaves. You fail to take account of the fact that that could be about the > best that could be accomplished under those conditions. Considering Calif. > now, Schwarzenegger is remarkably libertarian.
No. he is not remarkably libertarian even in comparison to the rest of california. The media has portrayed him as that, but if you pay close attention to his actions and endorsements, he is no less authoritarian than the rest. > >> What that means is that influential people in the Republican Party are > >> mostly indifferent between libertarian and authoritarian "moderates". > That > >> means it would take relatively little influence by either libertarians > or > >> authoritarians to get one type or the other installed in major offices. > >> That's leverage. > > >So I should support the republicans to try and get more like arnold in > >office? No thanks. > > There may be similar opportunities for you among the Democrats, but not on > the national scene at this time. There are few oppurtunties on both sides. You have delluded yourself into thinking their are. > >> And yet you seem so vehement about the Libertarian Party -- as if it > >> couldn't happen with them. But we'll never find out, because they're > never > >> getting into power. > > >They have gotten elected to many offices > > An insignificant number over more than 3 decades. True, but they have done so, which proves your statement false. > >yeah, what is this, the 25th aniversary of [rent control's] being 'phased > out'? It > >seems more entrenched then ever to me. > > The proportion of controlled units keeps declining. depending on how you define controlled units. I know your definition from experience is lacking. Travis _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw
