" Dr. E. Douglas Sheets" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in part:

>Please don't return back if your purpose is only to further subvert
libertarian dialogue with religious bigotry and nonsense such as the China
Doll crap you posted earlier.  

Aw c'mon, it was a cute, harmless story, and I don't see it as subverting
any libertarian dialog or being bigoted.  I clipped it for my stuffed wolf,
Wolfie, whom I think will get a kick out of it.

>There are better sources or venues you can spam on than a Libertarian
group which, as it appears, after my long absence, has become nothing more
than a spam ground for religious zealots and other extremists that detract
from what this group once was.

It's better than that Christ bit that Frank posted annually for some time,
and which I considered inappropriate proselytizing.

>Mr. Laird is doing that right now here on libnw, talking about religious
history and bigotry-oriented crap about Christmas.

But religious thinking and churches have had an enormous influence on ideas
about gov't & justice in general, and even on organiz'n of gov't, so I
don't consider the recent discussion about history of Christian churches to
be off topic at all.

I can think of many other examples.  Gary Greenberg has traced a strain of
statism to King David, with religious and legal authority resting on each
other.  Self-determination of nations and smaller groups has frequently
been catalyzed by religious determination.

I think religious ideas all rest ultimately on political-governmental ones,
given a veneer of supernatural authority by a priestly class.  (For
example, if Jehova today told evangelical Christian leaders that
homosexuality was a good thing, the evangelicals would just get themselves
a different God.)  But the point is that that IS a way of establishing
authority.

In Your Sly Tribe,
Robert
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