On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 17:01:23 +0100, "Tim Bedding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Frank > >> It may not be as much information as what could be obtained >> unconstitutionally, and the result may cost a few lives, >> but that's just one of the prices of freedom. > >I am not sure how many "a few" is to you. Almost 3000 people >died in the September 11th attacks according to wikipedia. > >To me, that is more than a few. > >Saying that that is a price worth paying would seem unlikely to >increase the chances of electoral success for the Libertarian >party. That's not what I said. The 9/11 commission stated that the attack could have been prevented by using the intelligence that was available, intelligence that was -not- gathered under the provisions of the unPatriot Act. The 9/11 attack was a product of poor intelligence management, -not- of constitutional limitations on intelligence gathering. Many terrorist attacks can be, and have been, prevented using intelligence gathered by constitutional methods. The commission found that 9/11 should have been one of them. Or am I missing your point here? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- _______________________________________________ Libnw mailing list Libnw@immosys.com List info and subscriber options: http://immosys.com/mailman/listinfo/libnw Archives: http://immosys.com/mailman//pipermail/libnw