Frank

> That's not what I said. The 9/11 commission stated that the
> attack could have been prevented by using the intelligence
> that was available, intelligence that was -not- gathered
> under the provisions of the unPatriot Act.

I wrote what I did in the hope that you would clarify your
statement, as you did.


The following LP quite is interesting
  The government should not use electronic or other means of
  covert surveillance of an individual's actions or private
  property without the consent of the owner or occupant. ...

If the government wants to spy on the property of Seehusen,
why should anyone other than Seehusen bear the cost of
placing the restriction? Why not let the market decide?

Spies are American citizens too. Why should their civil
liberties be trampled upon?

The link
http://www.lp.org/lpn/9907-KYC.html
talks about civil liberties.


The number of deaths (3000) illustrates that the numbers
involved in the issue are not small.

Although the September 11 attack was not a result of
limitations on intelligence gathering, it is plausible
that a new attack could have the same level of casualties
and only be preventable using the powers of the Patriot
Act. Of course, no approach will guarantee to stop all
attacks.


Here in the UK, the government, acting on the advice of the
security services, has introduced powers of house arrest in
order to combat terrorism. People deemed a threat can
be placed under house arrest.

Do you think that that goes too far?

Regards
Tim

Babylon 5 - Spider in the Web
Senator Voudreau: These are volatile times, Captain. Practicality
  is more important than principles if lives are to be saved.

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