Hi Dave, Most S/390 shops had, at least initially, the reverse problem:
"Linux is Unix and doesn't run on mainframes...." Ok, Ok, there's always been IBM AIX - but we won't go there. To this day, when I try to get IP addresses for "virtual Linux/390 guests" it confuses the heck out the networking people. They don't understand that there are no MAC addresses (how can your SuSE Linux PC be connected to the network without a NIC?!?!), no physical machines other than "that big mainframe box in the corner", etc. It ultimately comes down to a turf war. The S/390 shops don't want to give up their budget for "Unix stuff", and the Unix shops don't want to give up their budgets for "mainframe stuff". What they haven't "gotten" yet is that they are one and the same with the advent of Linux/390. Michael Coffin, VM Systems Programmer Internal Revenue Service - Room 6527 1111 Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20224 Voice: (202) 927-4188 FAX: (202) 622-3123 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Dave Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 1:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: SAF in zVM V4R2 Express Installation In a message dated 5/15/2002 10:56:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > So for those folks who are saying that they want to use VM to host > Linux/390 server farms, but they don't want to know anything about VM > - it's kind of like me saying I want to use Linux to run advanced web > serving, database and networking tasks - but I don't want to know > anything about it. It doesn't work that way, you need to make an > investment in understanding the system you are supporting, at least to > a level that you feel comfortable with. > I don't disagree with this...I guess my point is this... Linux is Unix....so we'll have a lot easier time winning over the Unix group on S/390 Linux. VM is ??????....so we'll run into a roadblock when we try to win over the Unix group on this.... ...in my shop the Unix & Infrastructure group is calling the shots for future growth....so somehow I need to get them on my side! So, I'll take care of the VM requirements (probably by getting some VM education and some ISV help)...and not ask them to cross-train anyone on VM. BUT....I'm sure I'll have to work with our network guys to get them comfortable with guest lans and hipersockets ;o) Dave
