Linux-Misc Digest #716, Volume #18               Thu, 21 Jan 99 18:13:09 EST

Contents:
  Re: help to solve the problem with X-server (robert lange)
  ***Publisher Looking for Authors*** ("Stephanie Wall")
  Re: how to mount a SCO eafs disk ? (Raymond Doetjes)
  Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
  Re: How to read mail/news using Netscape on Redhat 5.2 ???? (Thomas Boggs)
  Re: How can I turn off the sound of the modem while dialing? (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: Samba - StarOffice ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: sharing netscape 4.5 files between linux and nt4 - almost there,  ("Jesus M. 
Salvo Jr.")
  Re: Are ISPF editor and REXX clones available on Linux ? (Gary Momarison)
  Re: Lilo Pbs ... (David Crooke)
  X on a laptop (Upali Bandara)
  Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Erik Naggum)
  Re: Infringement of the GPL (Rodger Donaldson)
  Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters (Dillon Pyron)
  Re: Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!) (Jeremy 
Mathers)
  Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Chris Bergeron)
  Playing mp3 files (Richard Lewin)

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From: robert lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: help to solve the problem with X-server
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:15:53 GMT

Sergey wrote:

> Hello, ALL!
> Resently I've installed Linux Slackware 3.5 and when tried to enter
> X-Windows got this:
> Could not find config file!
> - Tried:
> /root/XF86Config
> /etc/XF86Config
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config.localhost
> /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XF86Config
> Fatal server error:
> no config file found!
> I don't know what to do with it, the installation was OK and I installed
> all the packages. Help!
> You'd better e-mail me!
>
> Tristan
> mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] , ICQ:25245216

you didn't configure your x system..............try either XF86Setup or
xf86config...................either will work but XF86Setup is the easiest
to use
hope this helps..............................:>)



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From: "Stephanie Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ***Publisher Looking for Authors***
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 18:15:25 -0700

Hello,
I am an acquisitions editor with a computer book publisher. I am looking for
potential authors who know the Linux code inside and out.
If you are interested, please contact me ASAP!

I look forward to hearing from you,

Stephanie Wall
Acquisitions Editor
The Coriolis Group
www.coriolis.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to mount a SCO eafs disk ?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:51:32 +0100

Pleace send any responce through to me. I had the same problem.

Raymond


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Consumer Poll Says Microsoft Is Good For Consumers
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 22:06:12 GMT

On 19 Jan 1999 22:39:40 +0000, James Youngman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us
all with this bit of wisdom:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mayor Of R'lyeh) writes:
>
>> On 18 Jan 1999 18:24:27 +0100, David Kastrup
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> chose to bless us
>> all with this bit of wisdom:
>> 
>> >Anybody that has not by now noticed that they are playing the part of
>> >a real messy, ugly and mean bully using all sorts of dirty tricks in
>> >order to smash their opponents in the software industry with a
>> >vengeance while not just relying on the renowned high quality of their
>> >products should have his head examined.
>> 
>> Anybody who hasn't noticed that's how big business is done everywhere
>> needs to get out more. 
>
>Well, the software company that *I* work for is successful (very
>successful!) simply by being better at the things it does than anybody
>else. 

Are you really so sure they've never done even one thing slightly
questionable? Are you a manager or a programmer or what? Would you
even know enough about the business side to be able to tell?
What is the name of this company? If you notice I said big business. I
don't claim to know every software company's name; but I can't think
of a British software company that's in the big leagues at least
public reputationwise,

> Perhaps your experience of business is limited.

Its quite expansive actually. That's one of the reasons I left it. I
couldn't put up with the crap anymore.



"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
 And with strange aeons even death may die." 
- Abdul Alhazred, Necronomicon 

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From: Thomas Boggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to read mail/news using Netscape on Redhat 5.2 ????
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:28:08 -0500

lucas wrote:

>
> You got in right on the money. I wasn't on line.
> Now everything seems to be much better around here.
> Thank you so much.
>

Glad it worked for you.

> By the way, which version should I download for V4.5 (Rehat 5.2)?
> I saw  v1.2 and V2.0 on the netscape site for linux.
> I'm on a dial-up and hate to go thru the downs to find out it' the wrong
> version.
>

I'd like to give you a recommendation but I'm not sure what you're asking for.
You're running Netscape 4.5 on Redhat 5.2, so what is v1.2/2.0 referring to?


>
> I almost dump linux several times, but I keep finding interesting functions
> that can't be done with other os'es. Guess, I'm just a glutton for punishment.
>
> Thanks again,
> lucas
>

Stick with it.  There's a learning curve but it's worth it.

-thomas


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From: Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How can I turn off the sound of the modem while dialing?
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 14:08:14 -0600

Steve wrote:
> 
> Raymond Li wrote:
> 
> > Hello,
> >     How can I turn off the sound of the modem when dialing with minicom?
> >
> >     Thanks in advance!
> >
> >     Yours,
> >     Raymond Li
> 
> You need to look at your modem manual and adjust your initialization string
> accordingly.
> For instance, my modem has 3 sound levels (none, low & high), which are set
> during initialization.
> Since not every modem is the same, I can't give you exact details, sorry.

Since most modems I know of are Hayes compatible, you can simply add
'MO' to your init string. IOW, try "ATZMO".

Regards, Dustin

-- 
Dustin Puryear * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * ICQ 6644253 
Help Crack Government Encryption: http://www.distributed.net
No wanna work... wanna bang on keyboard!



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Samba - StarOffice
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 18:48:00 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] meinte am 19.01.99 zum Thema "Samba - StarOffice":

> I've already posted one message but it doesn't seem to list, so here's
> another go. Sorry if I end up double posting.
>
>
> I'm a Linux Newbie, and I have just installed my first linux (redhat
> 5.1), and now i have a couple of questions. First of all: Where's the
> 'Start' button -  ;-) ? No seriously:
>
> 2. Anyoneknows where I can obtain the StarOffice suite for Linux (the
> free one)

I've got it from www.stardivision.de. About 65 MB, Personal edition 5.0.
Save well your personal key you will get there, you will need it for free  
registration.

Regards HaJo

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From: "Jesus M. Salvo Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sharing netscape 4.5 files between linux and nt4 - almost there, 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:01:45 +0000

"Jesus M. Salvo Jr." wrote:

>
> mv /xover-cache xover-cache.old
>

mv xover-cache xover-cache.old



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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Are ISPF editor and REXX clones available on Linux ?
Date: 20 Jan 1999 17:13:10 -0800

"Philip Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm looking for the "IBM / mainframe bigot" software bundle to put on my shiny new 
>Linux system.
> 
> Namely -
> 
> ISPF editor clone
> 
> REXX (either clone of the mainframe or OS/2 versions)
> 
> Are any of these available ?

I'm fairly sure I saw a REXX advertised in the Linux Journal a while
back. Can't remember who's ad it was. A WWW or DejaNews search
aught to find it. "REXX and LINUX".

You might also be interested in some mainframe connectivity SW at

http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/mainframe.html

-- 
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html


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From: David Crooke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,fr.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Lilo Pbs ...
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 01:37:31 +0000

Jack Ostroff wrote:

> [posted - not emailed]
> [much snipped...]
> >
> > > * The only way I can start is to boot from a floppy..
> > >   then I can access to the partition table :
> > >
> > >  Part  | Type               |  Size   | Mounted as
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > >  hda1 | Fat32             |   5Go   | /DosC
> > >  hda3 | Linux Native |   3Go   | /usr/local
> > >  hda5 | Linux Native |   2Go   | /
> > >  hda6 | Swap             | 127Mo |
> > >
> > > - Why isn't there a hda2 ?
> >
> > That's rather strange indeed... It should be hda1 for DOS, hda2 for Linux
> > native and hda3 for Linux swap.
>
> Most likely hda2 is an extended partition, which contains
> two logical partitions (hda5 and hda6).
>
> Also - I believe the LILO limit is that the entire kernel
> must be below cylinder 1024.  You might want to see if you
> can make hda3 / and hda5 /usr/local.  (I know, it might mean
> a lot of work, but it might mean that LILO will work...)
>
> Good luck

In that setup, assuming primary partitions 1, 2 and 3 are laid out in order,
then 3 is the last one on the disk.... they go 1,2=(5,6),3
so all of / should be below the 1023 cylinder  watermark

--
David Crooke, Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh
JCMB Rm 1408, King's Bldgs, W. Mains Rd., Edinburgh EH9 3JZ.
Edinburgh University Motor Sport Club - http://www.ed.ac.uk/~eumsc/




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Upali Bandara)
Subject: X on a laptop
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 16:48:12 +0100

A friend of mine is using a laptop (Highscreen Advanced II). Now we try
to install the X server: No success. Its screen does 800/600 @ 16 Bit
under 95. What can we do? Which monitor type shall we tell to
Xconfigurator? Which refreshing rate? Which Server?

Samuel

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From: Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 21 Jan 1999 01:41:08 +0000

* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Walker)
| I'm sympathetic to your points about loss of information through
| capitalization.  However, I distinguish between technical writing and
| normal English usage.  When writing a letter, I obey the cultural rules.
| When writing computer documentataion (for example), I bend the rules
| where appropriate.  Here are a few.

  it seems to escape people's attention that they _don't_ receive business
  letters from me, they _don't_ receive articles for publication, they
  _don't_ receive documentation, and they _don't_ read my books -- yet they
  behave as if they do, although what they _actually_ do receive is USENET
  postings and possibly e-mail.  none of these people bother to ask me
  whether I upheld the same principle everywhere, they just _assume_ I do.

  when people can't attack you for what you actually do, but first have to
  _tell_ you what you do, and then attack _that_, you have done _nothing_
  wrong.  a accusation made in the absence of evidence is sufficient reason
  to dismiss all other accusations from the same source, because evidence
  was obviously not part of the motivation for attacking.

| # I find this second form not completely satisfactory because many novice
| # users will insist on typing the double quotes.  Notice that "correct"
| # English usage actually insists on  putting the period within the quotes:
| 
|     Documentation on carnivorous plants can be found at
|     "www.hpl.hp.com/bot/cp_home."  This address is useful...

  use the more standard notation <URL:http://www.hpl.hp.com/bot/cp_home>.

| # This is *COMPLETELY* busted.  I've noticed that in books on style,
| # even the hard-line grammarians/typographers are starting to acknowledge
| # that periods can optionally be placed outside of quotes for technical
| # writing.

  this is actually a case for using typewriter-like fonts, where the
  aesthetic argument for ." no longer applies.  ". and ." are no different,
  aesthetically speaking, so any semantic issues should overrule the absent
  aesthetics.  proper use of font changes will also disambiguate between a
  period being part of the literal or part of the narrative.

#:Erik
-- 
  SIGTHTBABW: a signal sent from Unix to its programmers at random
  intervals to make them remember that There Has To Be A Better Way.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rodger Donaldson)
Subject: Re: Infringement of the GPL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:44:48 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 02:48:13 GMT, John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>It's not been to court that I know of, but the FSF did get Next to release
>their gcc-based objective-c compiler under the GPL.

There were also problems with Be and some network drivers and other code
they were using.  After the respective authors contacted them about it, Be
fell into compliance.  

-- 
Rodger Donaldson                [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Windows is the answer, but only if the question was 'what is the
intellectual equivalent of being a galley slave?'"  
                --Larry Smith, in comp.os.linux.misc


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dillon Pyron)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 21 Jan 1999 19:41:06 GMT

In article <785cct$ndc$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Michael Lee Yohe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> I have advice for you guys: get a life.
> 
> Every problem that Windows has is also evident in _all_ other breeds of
> operating systems.
> 
> Every problem with "bloat" is also evident in _all_ other breeds of
> operating systems _and_ applications.  But most people would not know this
> because they've used two operating systems: Windows and Linux.  I've been
> using operating systems of all types for many years now - the problem is not
> Microsoft-specific.  The problem is "programming-in-general" specific.

There is a deeper problem within MS.  A desire to be "all things for all people".
Of course, what results is something that doesn't really run the way it's
supposed to, because not enough time is spent in those little areas, like design
and test.

My career goes back to OS/VS2 on a 360/60.  I've written Pascal compilers for DG
Nova 1200's, VMS for Vaxen and worked with more machines than I care to think of.
Bloat is definitely a universal problem, but MS seems to have taken it to a new
level.

> 
> Understand this guys - "bloat" is a relative term.  Perhaps most of you
> don't appreciate the "additional" features.  For you I would say steer clear
> of any software made nowadays.  Otherwise - your opinion is merely your
> own - and I would advise you to substantiate your evidence with clear
> examples.

A "feature rich" product in which most of the features go unused is trash. 
Marketing whoo-haw.

> 
> This argument has turned to nonsense as all people really want to do is bash
> Microsoft - not address the true problem - the lack of discipline by
> programmers, Microsoft and otherwise, to produce lean code.

Agreed.  Look at the very disturbing trend now adays of hireing kids out of high
school who have no formal training.  Most of them wouldn't know a b-tree if it
bit them, or how to parse a formal algebra (or even know what the hell I'm
talking about).  But, what the heck, why do something in 10 lines when I can do
it in 25 and let the faster processor take up the slack.

But take a look at the crap that MS "dumb-pilers" produce.  Reference the above.


> 
> -- "anything written in anything besides assembly is bloated"
> 
>  ***************************************************************************
>  * Michael Lee Yohe                                   Office:      TH N318 *
>  * UAH ASPIRE System Administrator                    Office: 256-890-6904 *
>  * UAH CS Assistant Administrator                       Home: 256-828-2667 *
>  * Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Web: http://www.aspire.cs.uah.edu/mlyohe *
>  ***************************************************************************
> 
> 
> 

-- 
dillon pyron
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"There's fine line between genius and insanity.
And he's way over that line".

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Re: Netscape Q: How to make it download in Binary (Mime types - arghhhhhhh!)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 23:53:38 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mike Werner  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Jeremy Mathers wrote:
>> But, from a purely practical perspective, did you actually test this?
>> Do you know that the file gets downloaded in binary (and is, in fact,
>
>Yes, it does get a binary transfer.  By holding the shift key while
>left-clicking, you are instructing Netscape to bypass any and all MIME
>encoding, thus enforcing a binary mode transfer. (this might be badly
>worded, but yes it does a binary transfer)

Yes indeed.  I have since found that it does work - but *only*
because this is UNIX.  It *is* a problem in DOS/Windows flavors.

Or, to put it another way, it does do an ASCII transfer, but, luckily,
in Unix, ASCII == Binary.

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From: !@#@!#@#[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Bergeron)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 21 Jan 1999 22:53:35 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
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>
>>>>>> "jedi" == jedi  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>    jedi>       My disdain for Microsoft's customers rather predates
>    jedi> Linux.
>
><shrug>  Okay, so you're a snob.  "A legend in your own mind," as a
>sarcastic person might put it.
>
>I have a friend, a MS user.  A teacher for 20 years and now a school
>principal.  PhD, specializing in the use of computers in education.
>He's received two Fulbrights, one to teach in England on the teacher
>exchange program and one to study Latin American literature at Emory
>University.  He's been nominated for state Teacher of the Year award.
>He's been given awards and commendations by several of the schools
>he's taught at.  He still gets letters from former students, thanking
>him for the help he gave them.

Those who can do, those who can't teach.


>And you think you're better than he is because you use linux and he
>doesn't?  You're a fucking idiot.  You're worse than an idiot, you
>actually damage the cause you espouse.  The whole program of
>encouraging more people to try linux is damaged by the thoughtless
>snobbery of people like yourself.

I like to think of it as more than just snobbery.  How dare you insult
me with such a "cliche" word.  I know how to use my computer, and
therefore, I want to use it to it's maximum capacity.  Hence, I Linux.


>8<---------------how-easy-is-it-to-demunge-an-address?------------------->8
>#! /usr/bin/perl # if you are [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Another Luser):
>while ($line = <>){ if ($line =~ m/^\s*$/ ){ last; }
>if ($line =~ m/^From: (\S+) \(([^()]*)\)/){ $from_address = $1; } }
>if ($from_address =~ m/\S+NOSPAM\S+/){ $x = index($from_address, NOSPAM);
>substr($from_address, $x, 6+1) = ""; printf("The real address is %s\n",
>$from_address);}else { printf("No munge, just plain %s\n",$from_address);}
>printf("\nBrought to you by the Truth In Mail Headers Foundation\n");
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>
>- --
>                             Michael Powe
>            [EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.trollope.org
>                         Portland, Oregon USA
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From: Richard Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Playing mp3 files
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 08:38:51 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have several mp3 files which I am trying to play under Linux (they work
fine under Windows).  I have installed mpg123 and I can get it to work
but only with the -2 option and the quality is not very good.
Without the -2 option it plays very slowly.  I have also installed kmp3
which uses amp as its player.  I can't get it to work at all with this.  I
just get a lot of screeching and whistling and the counter on the
graphical display counts up very slowly - at least half or third the
normal speed.  Is this a problem with the mp3 files or is there something
wrong with my installation? - (my soundcard is a Soundblaster Pro
compatible and seems to be working OK otherwise).   Has anyone else had
success playing mp3 files under Linux and getting quality comparable to
that from Windows media  player? 

I would appreciate replies by email.    Thanks in advance. 

    Richard


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