Linux-Misc Digest #734, Volume #18               Sat, 23 Jan 99 11:13:14 EST

Contents:
  problem with HP 720c printer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: How to print a man page? (Eric)
  Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors ("David R. Bergstein")
  where can I find the TIP dialer? ("dps2")
  LILO problem with win98 (Redhat) (Felix Lam)
  Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Michael Carley)
  Re: TELNET.EXE ("David Z. Maze")
  Re: Linux compatiblity with Colorado tape drives. (Thomas Frese)
  Re: Linux compatiblity with Colorado tape drives. (Thomas Frese)
  Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use) (Michael Carley)
  3 button mouse difficulties (Rod Brick)
  Re: Linux or FreeBSD? (steve mcadams)
  Re: X-windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  att4410 emulation problems (mannyj)
  Re: get your money back for Windows preinstalled (David Efflandt)
  att4410 emulation problems (mannyj)
  Re: Does recompiling kernel looses patches applied? (Villy Kruse)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: problem with HP 720c printer
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 11:29:28 GMT

I would like to install my HP 720c printer on a PC RedHat 5.1 Linux platform.
But I've got some troubles to do it.
Is somebody could help me, knowing I downloaded pbm2ppa files and I tried to
install it, but ... :(
Moreover, sometimes when I try to print, I can see a message telling that my
printer is buzy ...
Another thing, I manage to print a test page but I don't remember how ... :(
Have you got a procedure to print on HP 720c.
Thanks in advance,

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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to print a man page?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 06:51:43 -0700

Jim Richardson wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Jan 1999 17:14:21 -0600,
>  Rich Grise, in the persona of <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  brought forth the following words...:
>
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> Is there any way to
> >> print the man or xman page in it's original formating?
> >
> >Well, I ran man man on one xterm, and ps auw on another, and came up
> >with this:
>
> <interesting way of printing man pages clipped.>
>
> the easiest way (at least for me.) is
> man -t command |lpr
> or
> man -t command > foo; gv foo
>
> THis assumes that you have a postscript capable printer on lpr, or
> some ps filter, the other method requires gv (obviously) and a supported or
> postscript printer.
>
> --
> Jim Richardson
>         Anarchist, pagan and proud of it
> WWW.eskimo.com/~warlock
>         Linux, because life's too short for a buggy OS.

I developed my own way, as many times the man page will have 400 pages of
stuff I don't need, and just wastes ink.
I type man command > printman  This redirects the output from the man page to
a file called printman (it creates it automatically) in your pwd.  I then do
vi printman and delete all the crap I don't need.  Then I do lpr printman and
finally I  do rm printman to get rid of the file.  I know, long and roundabout
way, but eversince I made the mistake of sending man gcc to my printer I have
found this method invaluable:)
Eric


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From: "David R. Bergstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
linux.dev.kernel,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: K6-400 "kernel paging request" errors
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:39:55 -0500

José Ureña wrote:
> 
> When using Heat Tranfer compound (grease), remember to remove any
> excess from the sides and walls of the heat sink. (the Radiator)
> The compound tends to collect dust and turns into a kind of insulator
> that prevents the heat from excaping the heat sink.
> 
That's a great tip - I will check for this next time I service the unit.

Thanks again,
-
David R. Bergstein
Systems Engineer and Blues Musician
Rockville, MD
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From: "dps2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: where can I find the TIP dialer?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 09:11:56 -0500

Does anyone know where I might find tip? Either source or binary is
acceptable.
Thank you,
dps



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From: Felix Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: LILO problem with win98 (Redhat)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:07:33 +1100

hi there,

As a newbie in Linux, I tried installing redhat 5.1 on the 
Sony Vaio 505 notebook. After days and nights, it finally 
installed ... :)

The problem now is with booting my linux kernel. Booting 
off disk is fine, but no luck with lilo. When I went thru the
step of setting up lilo during installation, it always reported
"an error has happened ..." and I eventually aborted this step.

I have fiddled with my /etc/lilo.conf file but with no luck. 
It always boot straight into win98 instead. When I run /sbin/lilo
, it always return

Added Linux *
Partition entry not found.

Here is a copy of my lilo.conf

boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
prompt
timeout=50
image=/boot/vmlinuz
        label=linux
        root=/dev/hda5
        read-only
other=/dev/hda1
        label=win98
        table=/dev/hda

Thanks a lot in advance. It has been bugging me many nights now ... :(

P.S. When I run fdisk in Linux, it reports "unknown" type for my win98
partition, will this have anything with this problem??

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From: Michael Carley<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 23 Jan 1999 13:56:46 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  obviously.  the question is for whom it causes a problem and why.

For what it's worth, I find capitals at the start of a sentence
very useful in making text easier to scan (by me, not by a machine).
They're useful as reference points in the text; punctuation rarely
stands out strongly enough to serve the same purpose (especially
if something is properly, i.e. lightly, punctuated). This is
especially true in printed text which is justified to both margins.
-- 
``Permitt not your schollars to ramble abroad, especially lett them not
soe much as peepe into a tavern or tipleing house'' (Provost Loftus).

My return address has the user name reversed.

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From: "David Z. Maze" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TELNET.EXE
Date: 23 Jan 1999 10:02:54 -0500

Merzinger Markus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
MM> Does anybody know a good telnet-clone for Windows that supports 
MM> ncurses

Windoze doesn't support ncurses.  At least, I haven't found a
curses-based app that even pretends to run on Windoze.

MM> (-> I hope this is the thing that makes the console colorful ....)

Ahh.  You want a Windows telnet client with color support.  A Linux
newsgroup won't be able to help you here, most likely.

-- 
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|          David Maze         |     _Schroedinger's Kittens_.  Asexual
|         [EMAIL PROTECTED]       |  reproduction?  Only one cat is in the box."
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From: Thomas Frese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux compatiblity with Colorado tape drives.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:51:45 GMT

I'm using the Colorado 8GB under Linux...newer kernels since 2.0.34 
or 35 contain the IDE/ATAPI Tape driver. The Colorado works with this.
You don't have to use BRU or any special program, once the drive
works, you can use any tape utility such as tar, cpio. I do use
BRU since it's very good. However, there is a problem with using the
Colorado - BRU sometimes does not rewind correctly to the beginning
of the tape or archive. According to BRU's support, this is a bug
in the current version of the Linux IDE Tape driver. BRU offered
some solution which doesn't work. Right now, I always have to format
the tape in Windows and then make the backup under Linux...that 
works fine. Never had a single read or write error. However, scsi
tape should be better supported under Linux.

Tom




"Patrick D. Rockwell" wrote:
> 
> I'm planning to set up a multi platform system with Dos 6.22, Windows
> 95, OS2 Warp, and Linux. I
> have a T1000 tape drive, but I'm planning to get a Colorado 4/8 Gb tape
> drive (part number C4386B). I
> know that Dos and Windows 95 work with it. What about Linux? Is there a
> Linux driver which will
> work with the tape drive that I'm planning to get? Is there a drive
> which will work with all four OS's?
> 
> In particular, I'm planning to get Redhat Linux, but if there is another
> better Linux out there which will
> work with the Colorado 4/8 Gb tape drive, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --
> Patrick D. Rockwell
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Thomas Frese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.abbs,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux compatiblity with Colorado tape drives.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 14:52:45 GMT

I'm using the Colorado 8GB under Linux...newer kernels since 2.0.34 
or 35 contain the IDE/ATAPI Tape driver. The Colorado works with this.
You don't have to use BRU or any special program, once the drive
works, you can use any tape utility such as tar, cpio. I do use
BRU since it's very good. However, there is a problem with using the
Colorado - BRU sometimes does not rewind correctly to the beginning
of the tape or archive. According to BRU's support, this is a bug
in the current version of the Linux IDE Tape driver. BRU offered
some solution which doesn't work. Right now, I always have to format
the tape in Windows and then make the backup under Linux...that 
works fine. Never had a single read or write error. However, scsi
tape should be better supported under Linux.

Tom

"Patrick D. Rockwell" wrote:
> 
> I'm planning to set up a multi platform system with Dos 6.22, Windows
> 95, OS2 Warp, and Linux. I
> have a T1000 tape drive, but I'm planning to get a Colorado 4/8 Gb tape
> drive (part number C4386B). I
> know that Dos and Windows 95 work with it. What about Linux? Is there a
> Linux driver which will
> work with the tape drive that I'm planning to get? Is there a drive
> which will work with all four OS's?
> 
> In particular, I'm planning to get Redhat Linux, but if there is another
> better Linux out there which will
> work with the Colorado 4/8 Gb tape drive, please let me know.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --
> Patrick D. Rockwell
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Michael Carley<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.misc,comp.emacs,comp.editors
Subject: Re: Linux keyboard? (For emacs use)
Date: 23 Jan 1999 14:10:34 -0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Erik Naggum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>  now, there _is_ solid evidence that lower-case letters are much easier to
>  read than upper-case letters.  the evidence suggests that the lower-case
>  letters were _designed_ for legibility.  furthermore, much work has been
>  done in typography to create fonts that are highly legible.  of interest
>  in this regard is the trend in modern typography to use upper-case
>  letters _much_ less frequently than was previously the case.  company
>  logos in lower-case were unheard-of until the 1970's.  I imagine that
>  some people would brand them as unlearned or evil-doers and what not.

Josef Albers had this to say (quoted in Tufte, Envisioning Information)
  This notion [the simpler the type, the easier the reading] has
  proved to be wrong, because in reading we do not read letters
  but words, words as a whole, as a ``word picture.'' Opthalmology
  has disclosed that the more the letters are differentiated from
  each other, the easier is the reading.

  Without going into comparisons and the details, it should be
  realized that words consisting of only capital letters present
  the most difficult reading---because of their equal height,
  equal volume, and, with most, their equal width. When comparing
  serif letters with sans-serif, the latter provide an uneasy
  reading. The fashionable preference for sans-serif in text
  shows neither historical nor practical competence.

It seems, psychologically, that well-differentiated characters
are useful to aid the reader which is why I favour capitals
at the start of a sentence---they mark points in the structure
clearly and visually.
-- 
``Permitt not your schollars to ramble abroad, especially lett them not
soe much as peepe into a tavern or tipleing house'' (Provost Loftus).

My return address has the user name reversed.

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From: Rod Brick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: 3 button mouse difficulties
Date: 9 Jan 1999 20:26:21 GMT

I just got a Logitech Cordless Wheel Mouse from Santa Claus.  It's a
three button mouse with one of those little roller thingies as the
middle button.  I've gotten the three buttons working under X by using
'gpm -t Microsoft -R -3'  and by putting the following in my XF86Config
file:

Section "Pointer"
    Protocol    "MouseSystems"
    Device      "/dev/gpmdata"

I know that gpm says Microsoft, and XF86Config says MouseSystems, but
this is the only combo of things that seems to work correctly.  The
problem I'm having is with cut and paste.  About half the time, when I
click the middle button to paste, I get two copies of the text.  The
other half of the time, I get the desired one copy.  I've tried
tinkering with gpm and the -i (interval) option, but this doesn't seem
to do anything.  I'm going to have to go back to emulating 3 button
because this way is just too troublesome.  Any advice would be
appreciated.  

Also, I'd like to change the acceleration rate using 'gpm -a'  but the
man page doesn't specify what kind of values are valid, I have no idea
what to try.  Thanks.

Rod


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Linux or FreeBSD?
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 15:30:57 GMT

[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On 22 Jan 1999 06:53:08 GMT, "Benny K.Y. Li" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>1. Stability, stability, stability
>2. Java support
>3. Support my SoundBlaster AWE 64
>4. Able to view VCD
>5. Simpler setup & management

Based solely on your requirements, I'd recommend Windows NT
Workstation.  (Gasp! Tar and feather the heretic!).

I've tried Red Hat 5.1 and 5.2, TurboLinux, Debian, Slackware, and
SuSE; -none- of them are simple to set up.  SuSE is the easiest imho.
I have not yet tried Caldera or FreeBSD.  -steve
========================================================
so what?  -  http://www.codetools.com/showcase

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: X-windows
Date: 23 Jan 1999 14:48:44 GMT

In his obvious haste, Patrick Batemen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Remove the XX on 
each end)> babbled thusly:
: I jsut installed RedHat Linux (off redhat unleashed) and for some reason my 
:x-windows is really strange, the mouse is extremely skippy, and slow, and the windows 
:go off the screen and onto the other side, what can I do to correct this, I am not 
:very familiar with linux.

Edit your XF86Config file.
Also, type superprobe at the command line. That will return exactly what
your chipset and video RAM is, for insertion in the XF86Config file.

I don't know if Red Hat has this, but there's a program in SuSE called
xf86config, which interactively configures X. There's also one called
xf86setup, which is prettier, but tends not to be as reliable IMHO.
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From: mannyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: att4410 emulation problems
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:24:19 -0500

Hi,
Problem: connecting to the console of a Lucent Vid.Conf. machine (system
v) sitting in a remote office.

My solution was - Serial cable to the terminal port of the Lucent with
Redhat 5.1 box and telnetting to the remote office.

Scenario becomes -
User sitting at win98 pc with procomm plus. User invokes att4410 on
win98/procomm. Telnets to redhat box in remote office - .bashrc requests
terminal type - user enters att4410. In shell - user invokes minicom -
minicom goes to /dev/cua1 and we login to the Lucent Bridge
successfully.

Problem: The emulation seems fine. Function keys F1 F2 F3 F4 work but F5
through F8 do not - (page up / page down etc do not work).

Also the Function key blocks at the bottom of the emulation do not get
updated. Normally th F1 would say "Cancel" underneath it.

Any help will be really appreciated.

Manvendra Jhala
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: get your money back for Windows preinstalled
Date: 23 Jan 1999 15:51:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999 05:19:36 +0000, chaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --- OUCH!!!
>
>My laptop never had a reset switch and it runs win95, at the moment my
>girlfriend has it, but is great at trying to get around in windows
>because it is on min spec for win, when I say that I also mean the LCD
>is mono, and 400Mb HDD, and what crap it is two, good job it might not
>be compatable for Year 2K. which reminds me, Is linux Y2K compliant, if
>not where can we get a patch.
>--
>Chaz

Unless you have any programs that use 2 digit dates, there is nothing to
worry about.  I think there might be a problem with the BIOS clock running
out of digits in 2038, but I imagine I will need a new computer by then.

Anybody wanna buy an Apple ][+ or 386sx20 mono laptop with 60 meg hard
drive?  8^)

--
David Efflandt    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.xnet.com/~efflandt/

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From: mannyj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: att4410 emulation problems
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:25:35 -0500

Hi,
Problem: connecting to the console of a Lucent Vid.Conf. machine (system
v) sitting in a remote office.

My solution was - Serial cable to the terminal port of the Lucent with
Redhat 5.1 box and telnetting to the remote office.

Scenario becomes -
User sitting at win98 pc with procomm plus. User invokes att4410 on
win98/procomm. Telnets to redhat box in remote office - .bashrc requests
terminal type - user enters att4410. In shell - user invokes minicom -
minicom goes to /dev/cua1 and we login to the Lucent Bridge
successfully.

Problem: The emulation seems fine. Function keys F1 F2 F3 F4 work but F5
through F8 do not - (page up / page down etc do not work).

Also the Function key blocks at the bottom of the emulation do not get
updated. Normally th F1 would say "Cancel" underneath it.

Any help will be really appreciated.

Manvendra Jhala
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: Does recompiling kernel looses patches applied?
Date: 23 Jan 1999 16:31:09 +0100

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brian McCauley  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Jesus M. Salvo Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Assume I have the latest kernel yesterday, then patches were announced
>> today and I applied them (binaries only).
>
>There are no binary patches.
>


Unless you refer to newer and updated versions of the respective
packages as 'binary patches'.



VIlly

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