Linux-Misc Digest #734, Volume #23 Thu, 2 Mar 00 21:13:02 EST
Contents:
Netscape window placement (Matt McClure)
Re: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests (Matt McClure)
One steep forward ... ("kkdlavak")
fgrep command (Luc Bergeron)
Re: how to create screen shot in Linux (Luc Bergeron)
Re: Weirdness in /var/log/messages (Hal Burgiss)
Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader ("Beny Spensieri Jr.")
NewsFleX NNTP of line newsreader source now GPL (Jan Panteltje)
Re: fgrep command (Juergen Heinzl)
Req: Dynapro touch screen driver ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!! (Julio C. Gutierrez)
Porting software to linux ("MadMan")
Re: how to create screen shot in Linux (Jan Schaumann)
Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!! (Jan Schaumann)
Re: $1.95 CDs - unstable version?????? (Bit Twister)
Re: resize linux partion (plm)
Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!! (JCA)
Re: Q: Find Sound Mixing Tool. (Young4ert)
Re: Have an old C:\Windows drive. Will WINE work for me? (George Dau)
Re: VESA-FBConsole (Vladimir Florinski)
Printing Printing Printing ("Melissa Nelson")
Re: recursive grep?
Where, oh where...? (Len Philpot)
Re: How is the PATH variable defined? ("Andrey Smirnov")
Re: How do you pronounce LINUX?!? ("Brian")
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From: Matt McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape window placement
Date: 02 Mar 2000 17:21:30 -0500
Does anyone know how to make Netscape windows be placed according to the
placement policy of the window manager instead of in the upper left
corner all the time?
Red Hat 6.1
Netscape 4.61
KDE 1.1.2
--
Matt
http://www.faradic.net/~mmcclure/
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From: Matt McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Date: 02 Mar 2000 17:45:33 -0500
On Thu Mar 02 2000, 16:54, "Celis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am receiveing this error messagecould anyone give me any pointers or a
> place
> where I can find information on how to solve this problem.
> I have checked in pppdocs and can find nothing mentioned about this.
>
> LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
>
> Connect appears to be made correctly up to the point where
> it would go into ppp mode on my side. I am tryn to kppp to connect.
>
> Below are the logs and script files, I am using.
[...]
> (Is in chat-ppp0)
> 'ABORT' 'BUSY'
> 'ABORT' 'ERROR'
> 'ABORT' 'NO CARRIER'
> 'ABORT' 'NO DIALTONE'
> 'ABORT' 'Invalid Login'
> 'ABORT' 'Login incorrect'
> '' 'ATZ'
> 'OK' 'ATDTXXXXXXX'
> 'CONNECT' ''
> 'ogin:' 'XXXXXX'
> 'ord:' 'XXXXXX'
> 'TIMEOUT' '5'
> '~--' ''
In my case, this was caused by using the wrong init string for the
modem. YMMV.
--
Matt
http://www.faradic.net/~mmcclure/
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From: "kkdlavak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: One steep forward ...
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 23:34:03 +0100
Well,
everybody is running around "windows" in a "desktop"
What about a new working environment or workspace really
spatial and special ?
I have read about a 'top' like utility that manages process at the DOOM
style, in a 3D environment.
Some one has any idea about a NEW methafor for the work with computers?
May be a virtual space or hyperspace were the user can choice gravity or
floating
navigation?
SURE! this is a uselessly question from an idle man! but what do you think
about?
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From: Luc Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: fgrep command
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:39:26 -0500
How do we use the "fgrep" command in order to search for several
patterns at the same time ? I don't understand the man pages !!!
thanx
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From: Luc Bergeron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to create screen shot in Linux
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:42:35 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there any screen shot software for Linux? I have checked it in CNET in
> "Download", they are for Windows or Apple.
>
> --
> Posted via CNET Help.com
> http://www.help.com/
ksnapshot comes with KDE
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Weirdness in /var/log/messages
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:48:16 GMT
On Thu, 02 Mar 2000 15:45:43 -0600, Harmon Seaver
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I just put up a new RH6.1 mail server recently and I'm getting a
>lot of this:
>
>Mar 2 15:03:59 mail inetd[31407]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in
>use
>Mar 2 15:13:59 mail inetd[31407]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in
>use
>Mar 2 15:23:59 mail inetd[31407]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in
>use
>Mar 2 15:33:59 mail inetd[31407]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in
>use
>
>in my /var/log/messages. I've never seen this before. Anybody know
>what it means?
I've seen something like this when more than ident was started from
inetd. I believe it is complaining about a port number conflict.
--
Hal B
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Beny Spensieri Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Navigator, Adobe Acrobat Reader
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:55:06 -0500
> The most common reason people can't get this to work is that
> they leave of the '%s' following the command to invoke the
> acrobat reader.
Also, adding -tempFile (yes, the 'f' is capitalized) will instruct
acrobat to erase the temporary file once you close the reader, otherwise
they build up without your knowledge.
The path should look like this:
/path to acrobat/acroread -tempFile %s
The reader also comes with a readme file that explains this better.
--
___________ Beny
/ _______ \
/ / \ | King of the cranium,
\___\ / / Great one of the grey matter,
/ / Magnificent one of the mind,
/ / Baron of brain,
|__| The one,
__ The only, The Riddler
/ \
\__/ http://on.to/riddlers-world
"I'm a humble person, really
I'm actually much greater than I think I am..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Panteltje)
Subject: NewsFleX NNTP of line newsreader source now GPL
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:11:16 GMT
I have released NewsFleX NNTP offline newsreader source under the GPL
This is a bit Free Agent for Linux (but better of cause ;-) ).
http://www.panteltje.demon.nl/newsflex/
Also on sunsite incoming, will be moved to some other directory later.
NewsFleX is based on linked lists, many of these, interconnected in
mysterious ways.
Have fun
Jan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Juergen Heinzl)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat
Subject: Re: fgrep command
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:17:48 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Luc Bergeron wrote:
>How do we use the "fgrep" command in order to search for several
>patterns at the same time ? I don't understand the man pages !!!
Yes, there is even a book about regular expressions, but use
egrep here ...
egrep -n "foo|bar"
... to print all lines which contain the text foo OR bar.
f(ast)grep is supposed to be, well, faster but less powerful
expression while e(xtended)grep understands the most advanced
regular expressions.
Leaving out any GNU specific extensions and exceptions here.
Cheers,
Juergen
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Req: Dynapro touch screen driver
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:10:46 GMT
I have need Dynapro touch screen driver for Linux or UNIX under X.
Please help.
T. Szolnoki
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Julio C. Gutierrez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!!
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:19:46 GMT
Hi all,
This is worth reading!
Microsoft has been working hard to develop a new technology that will save
disk space!! Links to files!!!! Incredible? No!
Read it detailed at:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/02-28w2k.asp
PS: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!
--
Julio C. Gutierrez -- Please remove both X to send email
Penguins live only in cool environments... ;)
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From: "MadMan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Porting software to linux
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 19:27:55 -0500
Hello:
I want to use my company's product on Linux, but I am not sure if it will
work. We have several Unix versions, HP-UX, Solaris, SCO... Can anyone tell
me which I should try?
Thanks,
TS
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how to create screen shot in Linux
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:35:32 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Is there any screen shot software for Linux? I have checked it in CNET in
> "Download", they are for Windows or Apple.
though just for the purpose of taking a screenshot it might be overkill,
but the gimp can take snapshots as well. As can xv as others mentioned.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
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From: Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!!
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 19:37:16 -0500
"Julio C. Gutierrez" wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> This is worth reading!
>
> Microsoft has been working hard to develop a new technology that will save
> disk space!! Links to files!!!! Incredible? No!
>
> Read it detailed at:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/02-28w2k.asp
>
> PS: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!
Plus, if it works as they saey, namelly automatically, then it will
delete files of the same name on your harddrive and turn them into
links.
Not every file that has the same name, is identical.
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann
http://jschauma-0.dsl.speakeasy.net/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: $1.95 CDs - unstable version??????
Reply-To: The news group
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 00:37:48 GMT
I believe you get the same CD.
For example I get the Redhat 6.1 86x install for ~$2 from cheapbytes.
I would get the same CD from redhat plus the extra cds with the other
shareware or/and what ever else is bundled with the install cd for
some more money with support thrown in.
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 16:05:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>I obtained $1.95 CD and it seems that it is the unstable version of tha
>t distribution?
>
>Does these low priced CDs contain unstable version? I don't know if my
>assumption is correct as I am a newbie and fiddling with Linux (never
>went beyond installation :) )
--
The warrenty and liability expired as you read the message.
If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
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From: plm
Subject: Re: resize linux partion
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 23:53:10 GMT
On Wed, 01 Mar 2000 19:53:29 -0500, Richard Beri
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I don't believe partition magic lets you resize ext2 partitions, you can
>only create them, you can resize ms-dos partitions, but that is all.
>
YES,you definately can with version 5
E
>
>Rod Smith wrote:
>>
>> [Posted and mailed]
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> AJAY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> > Accidentaly I have alocated more space for linux. Now I want to resize so
>> > that to create one more linux partion and rest to create WIN partion. Can
>> > somebody tell me how to do this???
>>
>> The easiest way to do this is to use the commercial Partition Magic
>> program from PowerQuest (http://www.powerquest.com). There's also at least
>> one open source ext2fs resizer (ext2resize, I think), but it's not nearly
>> as easy to use, and it opens up serious potential for human error. I also
>> don't know how reliable it is, even if it's used perfectly.
>>
>> --
>> Rod Smith, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> http://www.rodsbooks.com
>> Author of books on Linux networking & WordPerfect for Linux
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From: JCA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft reinvents the wheel!!!
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 17:19:59 -0800
Never underestimate Microsoft: They always manage come up with something
more
ludicrous than the previous time.
"Julio C. Gutierrez" wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> This is worth reading!
>
> Microsoft has been working hard to develop a new technology that will save
> disk space!! Links to files!!!! Incredible? No!
>
> Read it detailed at:
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/2000/02-28w2k.asp
>
> PS: hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!
>
> --
> Julio C. Gutierrez -- Please remove both X to send email
> Penguins live only in cool environments... ;)
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:36:31 -0500
From: Young4ert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Q: Find Sound Mixing Tool.
"Kim, Hui Jin" wrote:
>
> Hi there.
>
> These days, I am trying to develop Sound mixing program.
> For Example, the program can make one wav file that mixed with two wav
> file.
> anybody know program like this?
> Or anybody can tell me about some kind of way to develop this program.
>
> Have a nice day!
Check http://sourceforge.net database and I believe you will find
something similar ones.
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PS> Remove the "4" from e-mail address to respond.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (George Dau)
Subject: Re: Have an old C:\Windows drive. Will WINE work for me?
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 01:38:06 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
]I currently have Linux on first hard drive, /usr on second. Lost the power
]supply on a second PC, but still have its C:\Windows drive. Is there an easy
]way to make WINE work for me? What steps are involved? Thanks!
Are you thinking that C:\Windows is needed to run wine? If so, you are
mistaken. You do not need MS-Windows at all to run wine.
Maybe you want to know if wine will let you access C:\Windows on the
other drive? It wont. You will need to compile the modules for
the msdos file system and install them.
Easy way to meake wine work? No. Well, it depends on what you call
"easy". Some people think that a RedHat install is not "easy".
Installing wine is "easy" but it takes some planning.
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/ * \ Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! Any views or opinions expressed (OO)
\_,--\_/ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ! above may be mine, but are NOT ( \/ )
v WWW: http://pobox.com/~gedau ! necessarily those of M.I.M. W--W
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From: Vladimir Florinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: VESA-FBConsole
Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 18:13:50 -0700
Thomas Gaertner wrote:
>
> I've some problems using the VESA-FB Console.
> I want invert the colors of my terminal. Kernel-Doc says there is an
> option "video=vesa:invers" but using this option in my lilo.conf or at
> the kernel-Prompt has non effect.
>
Try "inverse" instead of "invers".
================================================================================
--
Vladimir
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From: "Melissa Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Printing Printing Printing
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 01:40:28 GMT
ok every one who is more than likely smarter than me at linux.....
i have a HPDeskJet820Cse can linux use this printer or do i have to use the
HPOfficeJetR40xi thru the network??
if i can use the 820 how might i go about configuring it???
thanks in adavnce UberLinux users
Melissa & Necro
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: recursive grep?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 01:44:42 GMT
On 2 Mar 2000 16:01:52 GMT, Frank Miles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Thanks to those who responded. It's in grep-2.4, which (for Debian folk)
>is in 'potato', but not in the current stable 'slink' (grep-2.2). There is
>an rgrep in slink.
I like rgrep; it search recursively -r and follow links, -F option.
So rgrep -lFr something / will scan recursively and find your file faster
than a classic grep if rgrep catch the link. -l displays a path to your
file. It accepts regular expressions. You may print a scan result and
highlight it -h (ansi compatible terminal).
--
-o)
/\\
_\_v
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Len Philpot)
Subject: Where, oh where...?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:03:24 GMT
OK - I give.
On Solaris, there's a file: /etc/default/login
It contains several settings, one of which is:
CONSOLE=/dev/console
which, if commented allows remote root logins. Uncommented, you must
login remotely as a regular user and su. In other words, root can only
directly log in locally.
Where is the equivalent on Linux? Not that I want to do this (due to
security reasons), but I've been asked and would like to know. I've been
unable to find it via a (rather empirical) search.
Thanks in advance.
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- Len Philpot -> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (personal)
---------------> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work)
----- ><> -----> http://www.centuryinter.net/lphilpot/ (web)
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From: "Andrey Smirnov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: How is the PATH variable defined?
Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2000 02:04:04 GMT
The PATH variable gets defined via number of shell scripts (actually any
script could potentially defind this variable).
You can define your own PATh variable in your .profile or .login script
(check your home directory!).
Quick tip: While creating your own PATH, don't forget to include $PATH
variable in it, or otherwise you will overwrite the values of PATH variable
set in global shell scripts. Example:
PATH=$PATH:/home/user/myscripts;export PATH
Which will search for scripts in /home/user/myscripts and allow you to
execute them without specifying full path.
Good luck!
Lord Petrosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:hNlv4.1250$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> hi,
>
> i understand this environmental variable is patched together using various
> scripts during bootup and logon (of a given user). does anyone have a
clear
> and complete picture of how a RedHat 6.0 box works in this regard?
>
> tia,
>
> LP
>
>
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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce LINUX?!?
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:19:45 -0800
There is a similiar problem with MS OS products.
Many people pronounce MS Windows as WindBlows or WinDozes. These particular
pronuciations are not the result of race, creed, religion, monetary status
or place of birth.
I know of next door neighbours who have numerous conflicting verbal
descriptions for MS Windows, sometimes they don't even begin to resemble the
MS approved spelling; "Piece Of Sh_t" comes to mind.
Just one guy's opinion.
Best regards,
Brian
Roni Choudhury wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>
>
>Rolf Magnus wrote:
>>
>> Grant Edwards wrote...
>>
>> >>So what? Should every country pronounce it different?
>> >
>> >Sure, why not?
>>
>> Because it makes it more difficult for people from different countries to
>> talk about it without a real benefit.
>>
>
>I doubt there will be any difficulty. Americans say "Super Nintendo"
>while Japanese say "Famicom"...no problems of understanding at all, or,
>if there are, it's a matter of finding out they are the same thing. The
>situation for the word "Linux" is even less severe than this.
>
>>
>> >Of course he has the right to tell us how to pronounce it. In
>> >countries where free speach is guaranteed, _everybody_ has the
>> >right to tell us how to pronounce it.
>
>This is not really a matter of free speech...But the point is, it's no
>sin if you pronounce it a bit differently, and as long as people know
>what you're saying, no one cares.
>
>> >And, we all have the
>> >right to pronounce it however we want to. Last I heard, he
>> >said that he didn't really care how it was prounounced, so it's
>> >a bit of a moot point.
>
>I suppose this really concludes the matter.
>
>>
>> Yes, ok. Perhaps my posting sounded a bit extreme, but I can't see what's
>> wrong about not having hundreds of different pronounciations for one and
the
>> same word.
>>
>
>A bit of an exaggeration, in this case. I pronounce it "Linnucks", Mr.
>Torvalds (in the famous audio clip) says "Lee-noox" (rhyming with his
>name, "Leenoos"...the "oo" is a short vowel like the one in "oops!"),
>and I've heard a friend of mine say "Lie-nucks" once and then never use
>it again because we found said audio clip. So, there are two different
>pronunciations, they are the American-English and Swedish variants of
>the same word. When Linus says "Lee-noox" and I say "Linnucks," we are
>saying the exact same word with respective accents.
>
>> >Aw, c'mon, German has plenty of words borrowed from English and
>> >French that aren't pronounced anywhere close to the way they
>> >are in their originating countries.
>>
>> Ok, but Linux is a name, like Windows, Beos, Chrysler, Intel, and there
are
>> no big differences in Pronounciation of these names.
>>
>
>Linux is a name, but it's not a real word. "Windows" is an english
>word...in my experience, people don't disagree about how to pronounce
>the name of the glass thing in the wall that lets light through...thus,
>there is one pronunciation of the name of the operating system. "Intel"
>is associated with the word "intelligence," I imagine. Again, based on
>an english word. Chrysler is a person's name, and it's one that is
>easily pronounced in English. "Linux" is also based on a name, but the
>name on which it is based is pronounced differently in Swedish than in
>English. Because the actual man is Swedish, we run into problems
>pronouncing the word "Linux." But who cares? People should pronounce
>it however is most natural for their language. End of story.
>
>roni
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