Simos Xenitellis wrote:

> You can have a look at this document, 
> http://planet.hellug.gr/misc/polytonic/ Although it is in Greek, it
> should be feasible to discern the combinations proposed. For example,
> "Νεκρό πλήκτρο" is "Dead key" in the list. If there are queries, feel
> free to refer to me.

Very interesting. Is this a proposal, or has it been implemented?
According to Babelfish, you say "Your distribution of Linux that
has been published after October 2005 should include the renewed system
that we describe here." Mine does not, but I don't trust the Babelfish
translation..

As far as I can see, it would not be difficult to implement it. Nothing
would have to be changed in the binaries, only in the xkb and Compose
files.

I noticed you only want to use 'two level' keys (normal and shift), not
using AltGr. Is this some kind of standard? (e.g. Greek national
standard, or some other kind of standard)? The present pc/gr file in xkb
uses 'three level' keys.

BTW I suppose when you say that tonos/oxia is on the ; key, you mean the
key which is ; on US keyboards, not the key which is ; on Greek keyboards?

> The "Compose" file should be broken in smaller files per script
> rather than having a big monolithic file.

What advantage would this bring? If we have many small pieces of the
Compose file, how is the user (or the system) supposed to decide when to
use which piece? Wouldn't this create another configuration problem?

UTF-8 allows using one system for all languages and scripts, without
changing locales. There is only one, IMHO unavoidable, but small,
disadvantage: some files (like fonts, and the Compose file) tend to
become rather big. But memory and disk space are not as expensive as
they used to be. And the user does not notice anything of this. She just
thinks: wow! I can input any language anywhere, at any time!

> There is increasing interest in updating this area of Xorg 
> (http://community.livejournal.com/xkbconfig/) and I hope it gets done
> soon.

Hmm.. "xkb" and "Compose" are two completely different mechanisms. One
is input to the other. People often complain about xkb being
'mysterious' or 'arcane'. Since xfree86 4.3 and x.org came around, it
isn't anymore. It just lacks user-level documentation. Recently, thanks
to this list, I have come close enough to enlightenment to attempt a
user-level description on my utf-8 page, sections 6.1 and 6.2
(http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu).

Regards, Jan



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