Simos Xenitellis wrote: > > There is some work to update the settings for Greek Polytonic. Two > thoughts here are: 1. Place ¨ (dyalytika) on the same dead key as > with modern Greek. 2. There is no way to type oxia; tonos and oxia > are considered equivalent in Unicode 3.0+ and tonos is preferred. > However, if users would rather have an oxia option, I feel we should > provide it.
I'll reply to your other points later when I have digested them (there is a lot of information there) but your message made me realise only now (sorry) that the tonos and oxia are really different. I thought it was strange that the "acutus" was straight up instead of pointing to the right. I thought this was a font problem. But it is not, because many fonts already have different glyphs for Unicode ά (03AC, small alpha with tonos) and ά (1F71, small alpha with oxia). It is a keyboard problem. The keyboard does not distinguish between the two. Simple alpha with acute accent becomes alpha with tonos. But if there are more accents in the combination, the acute accent becomes oxia. Proposal (I tested this, with the small alpha only, and it seems to work): -- Greek (modern and ancient) should use the common (international) Compose file. -- The international Compose file should have different definitions for letters with simple tonos and letters with simple oxia. At present, the Compose file has <dead_acute> <Greek_alpha> : "ά" U03AC # GREEK SMALL LETTER ALPHA WITH TONOS (and grep "GREEK SMALL LETTER ALPHA" Compose|grep -v AND|grep OXIA gives nothing!) To distinguish between tonos and oxia, on the xkb side, something should be chosen to represent the tonos. Perhaps we could just use "apostrophe", but in my test I abused the old "dead_horn", just like Alexandros did, but this time for modern Greek: <dead_horn> <Greek_alpha> : "ά" U03AC # GREEK SMALL LETTER ALPHA WITH TONOS <dead_acute> <Greek_alpha> : "ά" U1F71 # GREEK SMALL LETTER ALPHA WITH OXIA (For the time being, I put these things in ~/.XCompose, but they should really be in the common file). -- Then in xkb (/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc/gr) the AC11 key could be defined as "dead_horn" in the default (modern Greek) section and as "dead_acute" in the polytonic section. "Modern Greeks" could then use setxkbmap gr (or the corresponding definition in /etc/X11/xorg.conf) as usual. People who want to type ancient Greek would use setxkbmap "gr(polytonic)", and would get oxia instead of tonos for the same key combination. This of course assumes that ancient Greek does not use the tonos, only the oxia. And there may be other snags that I did not think of.. Regards, Jan -- Linux-UTF8: i18n of Linux on all levels Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/
